On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 01:25:32PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: >On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 10:52 -0700, David VomLehn wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 12:42:57PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 13:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > Which leads me to suggest that it is at least worth having someone with an >> > > embedded focus at KS to simply keep an eye out for impacts of generic changes. >> > > "Feature parity" is something I often deal with in trying to keep ppc4xx up to >> > > speed with the rest of the archs in the kernel. >> > >> > We're fine with this, if that's how the embedded guys would like to do >> > it ... how do you want to nominate the "someone with an embedded focus"? >> > We chose the topic driven approach because that's the one it's easiest >> > for the Kernel Summit Programme Committee to look at and make attendance >> > decisions based upon. However, if all the embedded people want to >> > choose their own representatives, that's fine by us too ... as long as >> > you can devise a fair process. >> >> Now, James, I think you haven't been paying attention to the embedded Linux >> world...asking us to devise *any* process is much more chaotic than herding >> cats. Expecting something everyone agrees is fair would probably take until >> at least KS 2010. That being said, we have three people who are listed in >> MAINTAINERS under embedded Linux. We might start by seeing which of them >> might take up the mantle and vote on the linux-embedded mailing list. > >Even for someone as inattentive as me, the general problems of getting >embedded people to agree the sky is blue did impinge on the peripheral >consciousness. Thus: If you can come up with such a process in a timely >fashion then fine ... if not, we'll do the topic based one suggested by >the PC. Most of these are probably tired and old, but some possible topic suggestions: 1) Kernel binary bloat (again) 2) Encouraging upstream participation of "Embedded" distros Things like Moblin and Android are getting a lot of press these days, but embedded distros have been around for a while. Are we getting good participation from these vendors? Is there something we could be doing to encourage such participation? Has CELF helped with this at all? etc 3) Netbooks - the bridge between embedded and desktop? Is the flourish of low cost netbooks, some pre-installed with Linux, having any impact on how we review and develop general kernel code? One of the problems I struggle with is coming up with embedded topics general enough to be of interest to a broader set of both upstream kernel developers and the embedded community. Those that are general enough have either been discussed quite a bit already, or are already on the list of topics. Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough. josh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-embedded" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
