On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:36:11PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > Actually if you ever need to diagnose early boot stuff on _any_ platform, you > do need a console. But it can be serial or netconsole, as long as that > works... > Except for the minor fact that most early boot debugging happens long before the console subsystem is even available.. At the risk of perpetuating the stupidity of this thread.. If you ship a device to a customer expecting them to debug it for you, you are likewise not likely to be very commercially successful, either. Devices are not shipping with consoles, period. If you disagree with this, you've obviously never shipped a device. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-embedded" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html