Re: Upcoming DVB-T channel changes for HH (Hamburg)

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Mojn, as people say in the north and to the north of northern germany  ;-)
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Tobias Stöber wrote:
> Well, just have to send this message again, this time to the right & > correct mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Who by the way had the > insane idea, to set a reply-to address to another mailing list 
It also means that the original sender may not ever see areply, unless one overrides this and uses the From: header,which I'm now doing in most replies, because except for a handful of developers, I really have no idea if the original posterof a message to -dvb is even subscribed to any other list.Most of the time, I'll guess they aren't.  Meaning thereply stays on -dvb assuming I reply to all.
As a result, pretty much everybody is crossposting between-dvb and -media rather than the so-called ``wanted'' effectof abandoning -dvb and keeping all posts in one location,that is, -media.
Naturally, posts that are delivered directly to me do notcontain this header, so my replies don't make it to thatother list.  Frankly, I ain't bothered anymore.

> As for certain area in Saxony-Anhalt, Saxony and Thuringia there ahve
Argh!  Don't do this ;-)  You're making me run for myenglisch-to-german dictionary which contains none ofthese.  But anyway...

> in my area (Brunswick), where there had been an ARD Mux on Ch 8. Now  it
Okay, this isn't in my dictionary either, and while Icould guess the others, I have no clue.  Sounds Canadianto me, which says more about my background, than ofnon-native place names which I avoid (Milano it is; Igrew up not far from Milan and I am not good-lookingand sexy and sophisticated like the italians)
But that is neither here nor there...

> Information for the whole NDR area will normally be found at> http://www.dvb-t-nord.de.
So far, only old info from last year is what I've found there.Likewise, the site for Bayern did not give me any info aboutplans to migrate the number of VHF frequencies into the UHFband, while it did have a few interesting bits of informationnot provided by the technically excellent, up-to-date, and informative BayernText teletext pages.

> There is a complete listing including parameters from "in area" and also> "out of area" (but with reception in the area) transmitters at> http://www.ueberallfernsehen.de/data/senderliste_25_11_2008.pdf
Interesting, thanks.  This gives me the overview by regionthat I lack apart from Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, and thelike, as to the modulation in use -- mdr and to some extentWDR do not follow the same pattern as seen in B-W....
I believe there is a mistake, though, in the data for HH.The guard interval of 1/8 for all frequencies, both VHF andUHF, from one Turm (font too small) does not match the 1/4used as a general rule throughout germany, and used by allthe (UHF) frequencies in the Single-Frequency-Networkformed by the other Standort.
(The modulation parameters provided in the initial scanfile for Lübeck seem to be wrong too -- the one whichcaught my eye when quickly viewing all de-scanfiles)

Even though my original plans to create a comprehensivelist of frequencies, transmitter sites, and technicaldetails for each Bundesland have been put on ice, as Idon't expect to be doing any travel to these areas inthe near future, it will be interesting for me to comeup with an overview of available quality in each region,as well as to puzzle over what WDR is doing.

I wonder if, in addition to moving from the remainingVHF frequencies, there will be plans in the future toconvert to a unified horizontal or vertical polarisationnationally or by region.  Though this does not affecttuning data, it is apparently an issue around Nürnberg...

barry bouwsma
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