Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2008, 18:20 -0400 schrieb Andy Walls: > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 01:01 +0400, Manu Abraham wrote: > > Andy, > > > > > > Andy Walls wrote: > > > > > Manu, > > > > > > Though I can't read much German, after looking at the jusst.de website I > > > can't help but think that you as well have financial interests driving > > > your actions. If so, then your statements display quite a bit of > > > hypocrisy. > > > > To your utter disappointment as i should say, i am not working for any > > vendor, but just get device support out to the community. > > Not to my disappointment. I'm glad to hear it. Someone who appears to > have an EE background without corporate bias can be an asset to the > community. > > > > The jusst.de domain is owned by Julian Scheel who runs Jusst > > Technologies, just happened to offer me hosting for me repositories for > > my work, using full ssh access, so that my workflow is easier. > > > > Not that i have anything to do with jusst.de otherwise. OTOH, i do have > > the patches at kernel.org > > > > Maybe Julian can comment on this to make things more clearer on the > > financial interests. > > Then what I perceived was wrong. My apologies. > > > > > > Manipulating (i.e. stalling) the timing of Multiproto being merged into > > > the v4l-dvb tree or kernel, for you or your employer's gain, would be > > > little different from the motivations you allege Steve of having. > > > > > > I am not manipulating any timing of multiproto being merged. In fact i > > had been away, for a few months due to certain reasons, that you are > > perfectly aware by now as far as i can understand. > > I was aware you were away. For what dates I do not know (I have emails > from you in May 2008). For what reasons, I do not know for sure (nor do > I feel is it my business). > > > > > So the points that > > you raise are quite baseless. > > Not entirely, there is a basis for the timing point. The pull requests > seemed to have come in short order when confronted with a competing > proposal. Yet the project had been ongoing for at least over a year (as > far as I can ascertain). Here's a gripe about delays from Jan 2008: > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx/msg28606.html > > There seemed to have been no other visible motivation for the pull > requests except competition. > > > > > > Since the major gripe I'm reading on the list "is that multiproto has > > > taken too long" and since it seems to me the only thing that shook it > > > loose was a competing proposal, please save the venom for when you > > > actually have some clear moral high-ground to stand on. I don't see it > > > from here. > > > > Crap, just read above. > > OK, then you do have some high ground. But you also had essentially a > monopoly position and now you have competition. That is not crap. > > > > > As for the technical superiority of either API proposal; that probably > > > just doesn't matter. I've seen policy/political decisions force > > > suboptimal technical solutions at work time and time again. If you > > > really believe you have a superior product technically; then perhaps you > > > should work to make it superior politically as well. Mud-slinging can't > > > be a good long term strategy toward that end. > > > > > > I don't have to do any mud-slinging, just wrote the exact facts out here. > > No, you are mud slinging. Let's count the derogatory terms you use in > addressing your competition in the following quote: > > "No need for you to break the compliant devices in favour of your > mediocre cards. As i wrote just above, the STB0899 is not the only one > device using the said features. Also i can guarantee that the CX24116 > (HVR4000) is the most handicapped DVB-S2 device that you are basing the > DVB-S2 API on: and i can guarantee that what you do will be just be > broken as you have done for other devices in the past." > > "Also i do not understand, why you have to make a lot of noise to port > the STB0899 drivers to your crap, when all your cards work as expected > by you with the multiproto tree. I don't see any reason why the STB0899 > has to be ported to the handicapped API of yours, handicapping the > STB0899 based devices." > > > 1 mediocre > 3 handicap (or variation thereof) > 1 crap > 2 break (or variation thereof) when referring to competing work > 1 noise, when referring to another offer to do work competing work > > And that's just part of the email. I'd hate to read when you actually > claim to be mud-slinging. > > Regards, > Andy > > > Regards, > > Manu > Andy, you are straight into it, at the point. Don't believe any other, or say it was me, giving you a bad hint. Hermann _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
