On Fri, Sep 14, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > On 9/14/07, Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > If you care about LinuxTV you'll work with the core subsystem developers > > to bring your em28xx tree inline. If you don't care then why are you here? > > It doesn't really work out to work with those 3-5 "core" people who are active > there. > It starts at the point where RFCs are submitted and not answered, > discussions are avoided and finally some people start to complain. > In case of pointing people to wrong or bad solutions, one "Maintainer" > pointed out it would be like manipulating others work ... this exactly > happened with the em28xx project. It's not only about the current > implementation, as from my side I also take upcoming products into > account and how long it would take to get something which isn't > supported by the API fixed.. it's just something that is too hard and > I don't want to debate about things where I know that the outcome > is that I have to wait till someone of those 3-5 "core" people come up > with an own idea. Maybe you still don't realize how tiresome it is to talk to you. What you present as "linuxtv people block my contributions" is IMHO "linuxtv people got fed up talking to you". Because when people disagree with you, you keep rambling on and on instead of just accepting it. See, working with an Open source community requires that you don't piss everyone off, but instead find ways to _motivate_ them to help you fix the problems which prevent your code from being merged. When people are doing software development _for fun_, then it should be a _pleasure_ for them to work with you, and not a pain in the ass. You code and your arguments in this discussion may be different than before, but the thread follows a familiar pattern and will likely go nowhere, just like the many discussions before. Johannes _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
