On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:29:41 +0200
Henk <henk.vergonet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There's also some responsibility by the users:
>
> Users should THINK before they buy unsupported devices. If possible
> buy devices that are supported by mainline.
>
> This is the only way we can convince manufactures to contribute to the
> Linux community.
This thread started as a crosspost between v4l and dvb lists
and now only on dvb it's a bit off-topic.
That's another problem. I try as possible to buy devices that
Linux supports, but for example, when I bought my Xceive based board, I
just looked at the CARDLIST.tuner and checked that "tuner=71 - Xceive
xc3028" was supported. As it apparently had support for Conexant chips
too, I thought it was supported. Of course, there was the README.cx88
file which states:
video
- Basically works.
Ok. So I already knew that the support was incomplete. But I
tried as much as I can to help the developers by testing their code
etc... and Markus did it. Which his experimental tree I can watch video
and listen to radio...
> And remember: some of these developers do this in their spare time
> without payment. As a user you cannot make any demands on these
> people.
Yes, I completely agree and I remembered that. But, it could
not be used as a excuse to not do the right thing. I think that if
someone decides to support a device, he/she should do it right,
otherwise it will be better not to do it at all.
> Also don't blame the developers, blame the companies withholding basic
> information on how to program these device.
Yes, I blame the companies too. I blame Microsoft and its
partners. I blame all of them. But that's what life is. And the world
or the market will have no mercy of Linux users/developers so we have
to be better than them.
> - Fun,
> - unlock extended product features,
> - long term product support.
> - Freedom and ownership, a GNU/Linux system will put control in the
> hands of the user.
> - Technical advancement of your favorite OS.
Ok. I, as a user, try as hard as i can to test new code and
provide good bug reports. If I was a programmer, maybe I could help
more...
> So the userspace framework is an intermediate solution until we have a
> better alternatives.
Yes.
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