Markus Rechberger wrote: > these em28xx devices should be around in US: > > 1. Hauppauge -em2883 (NTSC(tvp5150)/ATSC(lgdt3303)/extra > usbaudio(ep 0x83)) > ..... > 3. elgato - em2883 (NTSC(tvp5150)/ATSC(Samsung) Are the elgato EyeTV Hybrid and Hauppauge HVR-950 not one and the same device? i.e. are you sure that they actually use different digital demodulators? Interesting to note that the A/V breakout cables shown on the elgato website are identical to that shown on the Pinnacle webpage with their product ...yet the cable in Erik's pictures is clearly not the same.....(unlike egato, Hauppauge doesn't display a A/V cable on their webpage...not even certain if they include a cable with purchase, as they don't seem to make mention of it). Linkage: - http://elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyetvhybridna&PHPSESSID=ac31cea9e8d09c43177ab5ec633b2126 - http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm - http://erik.wanderings.us/pub/PCTVHDPro/PDRM1158.JPG - http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_hvr950.html Lastly, I rather suspect that the Geniatech "HDTV THRILLER USB U6010A", which is appearing for sale by an Atlanta based ebay seller, is likely related to either the elgato/Hauppauge or Pinnacle design/device. Linkage: - http://www.geniatech.com/pa/u6000a.htm - http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Generation-ATSC-HDTV-USB-tuner-w-NSTC-TV-card_W0QQitemZ290052869082QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3761QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Cheers _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb