Re: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Multi protocol support (stage #1)

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On Mon, May 22, 2006, Manu Abraham wrote:
> Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> >IMHO the current use of DVB-S2 is just that, i.e. basically
> >the difference between the satellite_delivery_descriptor
> >as defined in EN 300 468 version 1.5.1 vs. 1.7.1.
> 
> But you seem to go against EN 300 468 as well. Looking at EN 300 468
> Thare are others as well.

I can't make sense out of this statment.

> >(So it's actually not just a new modulation but also
> >the new roll-off factor.)
> 
> Argh ! Rolloff is queried back from the Physical layer

Rolloff is part of satellite_delivery_descriptor (NOT
s2_satellite_delivery_descriptor).

> >For the immediate needs of DVB-S2 it might be sufficient to
> >just treat it as DVB-S, i.e. you tune to the right frequency
> >with the right symbol rate and the demod hw will do the
> >rest automatically (since the other parameters are part
> >of physical layer or baseband signalling). But I could be
> >wrong in my interpretation of the standard here...
> 
> Well, if i were to say that if i were to be wrong at any point on some 
> argument, i wouldn't go about NACK'ing it altogether.
> 
> There can be many things that can run with , "i think" "it might" etc. 
> But that is not a solution.

Yes, the solution is to actually try it. So I'm still
waiting that the people who work on DVB-S2 drivers report
how it actually works. I.e. not just rely on the
DVB-S2 standard, but also on hw data sheets and practical
experience.

> >- be extensible for:
> >  - maybe support advanced DVB-S2 use (DSNG etc.) once we
> >    figured out how it works in practise
> >  - be able to query DVB-S2 (and others) modulation parameters
> >    etc. from the demod (e.g. also DVB-T/DVB-H cell ids)
> 
> Well i tried for it. Well many tried, you seemed to NACK all of them 
> down, but you say on one hand that you don't know much about DVB-S2 , on 
> the other hand you NACK any changes.

Again:
KISS
Demonstate how an app can make use of it.

> >  - maye other stuff like ARIB / ISDB-T
> >
> >  
> 
> Well we should implement the useful ones first rather than implementing 
> the ones that aren't used at all

"be extensible for" ... "maybe other stuff"

Please read.


Johannes

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