Dominique Dumont writes: > Martin Cap <macap20001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > this one "Hama DVB SAT - CI PCI Karte" (although it should be an exact > > clone of the Twinhan card you mentioned): > > http://www.hama.de/portal/articleId*108593/action*2563 > > It looks more like a clone of the Technisat card. Same in green, red or blue ... They are all Twinhan cards. AFAIR, the longer red Twinhan is a VP1030A, the Technisat a VP1030C. Then there is a similar looking one (tuner in same angle as Technisat) but with different tuner called VP1032. I think Manu mentioned a VP1032A to me (probably the version where the tuner actually works) and there are probably many more ... Don't quote me on the exact numbers, they are from memory. I can look them up if somebody is interested. Ralph