On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 01:54:28PM +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: > But there was always meant to be a layer (libv4l plugin) that could be > used to setup a 'default scenario' that existing applications could use, > but that was never enforced, sadly. However, there's other painful issues lurking in userspace, particularly to do with the v4l libraries. The idea that the v4l libraries should intercept the format negotiation between the application and kernel is a particularly painful one - the default gstreamer build detects the v4l libraries, and links against it. That much is fine. However, the problem comes when you're trying to use bayer formats. The v4l libraries "helpfully" (or rather unhelpfully) intercept the format negotiation, and decide that they'll invoke v4lconvert to convert the bayer to RGB for you, whether you want them to do that or not. v4lconvert may not be the most efficient way to convert, or even what is desired (eg, you may want to receive the raw bayer image.) However, since the v4l libraries/v4lconvert gives you no option but to have its conversion forced into the pipeline, other options (such as using the gstreamer neon accelerated de-bayer plugin) isn't an option without rebuilding gstreamer _without_ linking against the v4l libraries. At that point, saying "this should be done in a libv4l plugin" becomes a total nonsense, because if you need to avoid libv4l due to its stupidities, you don't get the benefit of subdevs, and it yet again _forces_ people down the route of custom applications. So, I really don't agree with pushing this into a userspace library plugin - at least not with the current state there. _At least_ the debayering in the v4l libraries needs to become optional. -- RMK's Patch system: http://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: currently at 9.6Mbps down 400kbps up according to speedtest.net. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://driverdev.linuxdriverproject.org/mailman/listinfo/driverdev-devel
