Re: [RFCv3][PATCH 3/5] arm64: Implement ARCH_HAS_FORCE_CACHE

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On 09/13/2016 08:14 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 08:02:20AM -0700, Laura Abbott wrote:
On 09/13/2016 02:19 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 02:32:56PM -0700, Laura Abbott wrote:

arm64 may need to guarantee the caches are synced. Implement versions of
the kernel_force_cache API to allow this.

Signed-off-by: Laura Abbott <labbott@xxxxxxxxxx>
---
v3: Switch to calling cache operations directly instead of relying on
DMA mapping.
---
arch/arm64/include/asm/cacheflush.h |  8 ++++++++
arch/arm64/mm/cache.S               | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++----
arch/arm64/mm/flush.c               | 11 +++++++++++
3 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

I'm really hesitant to expose these cache routines as an API solely to
support a driver sitting in staging/. I appreciate that there's a chicken
and egg problem here, but we *really* don't want people using these routines
in preference to the DMA API, and I fear that we'll simply grow a bunch
more users of these things if we promote it as an API like you're proposing.

Can the code not be contained under staging/, as part of ion?


I proposed that in V1 and it was suggested I make it a proper API

http://www.mail-archive.com/driverdev-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg47654.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/driverdev-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg47672.html

:/ then I guess we're in disagreement. If ion really needs this stuff
(which I don't fully grok), perhaps we should be exposing something at
a higher level from the architecture, so it really can't be used for
anything other than ion.

I talked/complained about this at a past plumbers. The gist is that Ion
ends up acting as a fake DMA layer for clients. It doesn't match nicely
because clients can allocate both coherent and non-coherent memory.
Trying to use dma_map doesn't work because a) a device for coherency isn't
known at allocation time b) it kills performance. Part of the motivation
for taking this approach is to avoid the need to rework the existing
Android userspace and keep the existing behavior, as terrible as it
is. Having Ion out of staging and not actually usable isn't helpful.

I'll give this all some more thought and hopefully have one or two more
proposals before Connect/Plumbers.


Will


Thanks,
Laura
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