On 07/25/2014 11:30 AM, Nick Krause wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> On 07/25/2014 11:13 AM, Nick Krause wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/25/2014 10:53 AM, Nick Krause wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 07/25/2014 10:20 AM, Nick Krause wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Chen Gang <gang.chen.5i5j@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Excuse me, I did not see the patch details, but I guess it is about >>>>>>>> whether welcome a new member to upstream kernel. For me, I have 3 ideas >>>>>>>> about it if I am a newbie or a normal kernel developer: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I have enough basic skills for it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I developed one or more another real world projects with C? >>>>>>>> (they are successful projects -- at least, not failure projects) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Can I construct related develop environments to support what I do? >>>>>>>> (e.g. building and testing for upstream kernel) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Am I familiar the basic working flow about kernel mailing list. >>>>>>>> (e.g. format-patch, sending patch, email client configuration...). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I have a correct attitude on it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Am I careful enough? >>>>>>>> (e.g. if find some details may doubt, try to check and clear them) >>>>>>>> (it is always neccessary for all patches) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Am I try my best for it? >>>>>>>> (e.g. when finish coding, try what I can do: build, run and test). >>>>>>>> (it is neccessary for most cases) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I have negative effect with others? >>>>>>>> (e.g. discourage the newbies, or send spam to other members ...). >>>>>>>> (need always try to avoid) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I really love programming, also love open source kernel? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I love it, or I have to do it for another reason? >>>>>>>> (I guess, most of gmail members in open source, love programming). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I still love programming if I am discouraged by any members? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do I still love open source kernel if discouraged by any members? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have most of these skills other then developing real projects in C with other >>>>>>> developers as other then the kernel I don't have must interest in C outside >>>>>>> of embedded programming. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, thanks. If what you said is true, for me, if you will, please still >>>>>> continue for open source kernel, but really need be more careful about >>>>>> the patch you made before send to open mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Chen Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> Open, share, and attitude like air, water, and life which God blessed >>>>> >>>>> Chen , >>>>> Thanks for helping me out here :). The true through is I don't known how to >>>>> build test correctly as a newb and thought it was better just to avoid it(stupid >>>>> me). I would like to known how to do this and if there is any way I can help you >>>>> guys out , please let me known :). I don't want to be avoided I am honestly here >>>>> to help make your life easier. >>>> >>>> Excuse me, my English is not quite well, I do not understand what you >>>> said, I guess your meaning is "not familiar with how to build and test >>>> upstream kernel" If what I guess is incorrect, please let me know. >>>> >>>> There are some books or some related web links for building and test >>>> kernel, they are not quite difficult to get (please google search). >>>> >>>> I guess, it is necessary to reference these information and construct >>>> related develop environments to support what you want to do next. >>>> >>>> >>>> By the way, excuse me, today I have to do some other things firstly, so >>>> maybe my next email reply will be late (may tomorrow, or the day after >>>> tomorrow). >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> -- >>>> Chen Gang >>>> >>>> Open, share, and attitude like air, water, and life which God blessed >>> >>> That's what I meant. If you can sent me a link to how to do build testing >>> that would be great :). >> >> Please read README at the root directory of kernel source, also >> "./Documents" contents many valuable information. And try google search >> for additional information. >> >> Try to accomplish them by yourself, that will let yourself improved with >> efficiency. >> >> Thanks. >> -- >> Chen Gang >> >> Open, share, and attitude like air, water, and life which God blessed > > That seems to be the issue with my programming here. For me, constructing related environments is necessary for developers, especially for senior developers. Thanks. -- Chen Gang Open, share, and attitude like air, water, and life which God blessed _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://driverdev.linuxdriverproject.org/mailman/listinfo/driverdev-devel