* Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:07:10AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 14:14 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > greg k-h > > > > Greg, why are you merging this crap anyway? Aren't there enough tracer > > thingies around already? > > I don't know, is there? > > There's some reason the distros, and users, still use lttng, > so I'm guessing that it fits the needs of quite a few people. Same goes for a whole lot of other crap that distros are carrying. Would we want to merge a different CPU scheduler or the 4g:4g patch or a completely new networking stack into drivers/staging/? I don't think so. I.e. putting LTTNG into drivers/staging/ will not really solve anything - and in may in fact delay any sane technical resolution: There's a difference between a driver that has to go into drivers/staging/ because nobody cares enough [and the driver isnt high quality enough yet], and a core kernel feature that we DO care about and which HAS BEEN REJECTED IN ITS FORM. > That's why I'm merging it, if that the in-kernel stuff > obsoletes lttng, great, let me, and the distros know. I'm NAK-ing the LTTNG driver really, as it's a workaround for a core kernel NAK. Mathieu, please work with the tracing folks who DO care about this stuff. It's not like there's a lack of interest in this area, nor is there a lack of willingness to take patches. What there is a lack of is your willingness to actually work on getting something unified, integrated to users... LTTNG has been going on for how many years? I havent seen many steps towards actually *merging* its functionality - you insist on doing your own random thing, which is different in random ways. Yes, some of those random ways may in fact be better than what we have upstream - would you be interested in filtering those out and pushing them upstream? I certainly would like to see that happen. We want to pick the best features, and throw away current upstream code in favor of superior out of tree code - this concept of letting crap sit alongside each other when people do care i cannot agree with. Thanks, Ingo _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://driverdev.linuxdriverproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
