Re: New Driver for electrical energy measurement

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:33:02 +0200
Christian Gromm <christian.gromm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 14.07.2017 11:40, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> > On 07/14/2017 11:00 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:  
> >> On 07/14/2017 01:07 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> >>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:19:40 +0200
> >>> Christian Gromm <christian.gromm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:51:01 +0200
> >>>> Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>  
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:18:54PM +0200, Christian Gromm wrote:  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Microchip is planning to introduce a driver for a new companion
> >>>>>> chip series capable of electical energy measurement. However, we
> >>>>>> are not sure which location in the source tree is the most
> >>>>>> suitable. First thought was to put it into /drivers/powercap. But
> >>>>>> now we are in discussions whether it would make even more sense to
> >>>>>> introduce a new driver for electrical energy measuring or
> >>>>>> monitoring.  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why not just have it be an IIO device, I think they have energy
> >>>>> sensors already (adding the iio mailing list to find out...)  
> >>>>
> >>>> We thought about hwmon, but not IIO.
> >>>>  
> >>>>>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Following is a rough overview of the part we want the driver for.
> >>>>>> Any input on this will be appreciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> === Introduction
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Following the recent focus on low-power systems, Microchip has
> >>>>>> designed a companion chip series capable of measuring the
> >>>>>> electrical energy flow of an electrical system.  The series in
> >>>>>> question, EM Chip  is capable of measuring the energy flow (in or
> >>>>>> out) of an electrical system by monitoring one or more power
> >>>>>> rails.  The 1st chip of the series, EM Chip is able to measure the
> >>>>>> net energy flow over 4 different power rails.  The chip itself is a
> >>>>>> small QFN16 (4mm x 4mm x 0.5mm) or WLCSP16 (2.25mm x 2.2mm) package.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> === Theory of Operation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In order to measure the amount of energy entering/exiting a system,
> >>>>>> a small shunt resistor is interleaved on a power rail. By measuring
> >>>>>> the small voltage drop across the shunt resistor (a known value),
> >>>>>> the electrical current is measured.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      I = U/R
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Depending on whether the system is consuming or producing energy,
> >>>>>> the measured current value can be either a positive or negative
> >>>>>> number.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To get the instantaneous power figure we will have to measure the
> >>>>>> power rail’s voltage and multiply it with the measured value for
> >>>>>> the current
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      P = V * I = V * U_shunt/R
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Knowing the instantaneous power and by making a high enough sample
> >>>>>> rate (for measuring the current and the power rail voltage), we can
> >>>>>> assume the measured value for power is equal to the average power
> >>>>>> figure for the amount of time between 2 sampling moments.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now that we also know the average power for a given time interval
> >>>>>> (dt_x = time between 2 sampling moments; sampling speed is known),
> >>>>>> we can measure the energy amount entering or exiting the system
> >>>>>> between 2 sampling moments
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>      E_partial_x = P * dt_x
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Having the energy information available, we can continue to add the
> >>>>>> subsequent energy values for as long as the system is active. The
> >>>>>> amount of energy is the sum of all the partial energy values
> >>>>>> measured for each time interval E = Sum (E_partial_x), where x can
> >>>>>> take values from 0 till infinite.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> === Chip Operation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The EM Chip chip uses the same principles of operation as presented
> >>>>>> in the “Theory of Operation” and it does so for a number of 4
> >>>>>> channels. 4 independent power rails can be energy monitored in the
> >>>>>> same time.  The chip is controlled over I2C/SMBus by an I2C/SMBus
> >>>>>> master.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In order to reduce the amount of information traffic between the EM
> >>>>>> Chip and the entity asking for its information, the chip features
> >>>>>> large accumulator energy registers for the accumulated energy
> >>>>>> values. It can accumulate up to 2^24 power values. Depending on the
> >>>>>> selected chip’s sampling speed, such a number of samples are
> >>>>>> produced in about 4.5 hours (fastest sampling speed) up to 582.5
> >>>>>> hours or more than 24 days (lowest sampling speed).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> EM Chip measures the power as a 28-bits number. The 28-bits number
> >>>>>> is the multiplication result of the 16-bits number used to measure
> >>>>>> the power rail voltage and the 12-bits number used for measuring
> >>>>>> the voltage drop across the power rail shunt resistor.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If bidirectional energy flow is required, the power is measured as a
> >>>>>> 27-bits number and 1 bit for the sign. When no bidirectional flow is
> >>>>>> needed, the power value is measured as an unsigned 28-bits number.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Due to the relatively large size of the accumulated energy
> >>>>>> registers inside the chip (48 bits), in the worst case scenario
> >>>>>> (power values are full scale numbers), a number of 2^20 full-scale
> >>>>>> power values can be measured before energy register’s overflow.
> >>>>>> Using the fastest sampling speed, the accumulated energy registers
> >>>>>> overflows only after a bit over 17 minutes, while at the lowest
> >>>>>> sampling speed, it would overflow in over 36 hours.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thus, the chip requires infrequent reads of the accumulated energy
> >>>>>> registers. Even in the worst case scenario, the time between 2
> >>>>>> consecutive energy accumulator reads can be over 17 minutes !
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In order to keep a longer history of energy measurements, an
> >>>>>> I2C/SMBus master (e.g. SoC) would read the accumulated energy
> >>>>>> register values and then use larger “soft” accumulated energy
> >>>>>> registers to extend the maximum overflow period.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The EM Chip chip can monitor rails up to 32V. It can monitor the
> >>>>>> energy amounts used by various sub-components of a system (e.g.
> >>>>>> CPU, GPU, memory, hard-drives, USB ports, backlight, wireless
> >>>>>> adapters, cameras, displays, …)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> EM Chip is able to start operating immediately after power-up with
> >>>>>> no CPU intervention at all. Such a feature is useful, because it
> >>>>>> can show the amount of energy consumed by a system before the
> >>>>>> latter finished booting its operating system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The chip’s own current draw is around 20uA (in low-power mode,
> >>>>>> lowest sampling speed - 8 samples/sec) to 675uA (for the highest
> >>>>>> sampling speed - 1024 samples/sec)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When operated in low-power mode, it can be used to monitor the
> >>>>>> stand-by energy draw of the system. As an example, such a mode is
> >>>>>> useful when a system is suspended to RAM or to measure the energy
> >>>>>> usage from the power on till the booting process is finished.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> === Linux Driver
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While the chip is due to be publicly released in Q3 2017, a
> >>>>>> selected number of PC OEM manufacturers will include one or more EM
> >>>>>> Chip chips on their systems.  We would like to include a driver for
> >>>>>> EM Chip chip and its follow-up products, such that Linux Kernel
> >>>>>> will be able to provide the energy information as soon as computing
> >>>>>> systems using this series of chips will become available.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> By providing accurate energy measurements, the computing systems
> >>>>>> along with their operating systems will be able to run more
> >>>>>> efficiently.  
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have any kernel code already to show how this will get hooked
> >>>>> up to the device?  Do you need device tree bindings for the sensors,
> >>>>> or are they on a discoverable bus?  
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I don't. I wanted to bring this up on the mailing list first,
> >>>> before I get started.
> >>>> Sensors are attached via I2C.  
> >>>
> >>> Sure, I don't blame you having myself gone through several subsystems with
> >>> a driver in the past!
> >>>
> >>> As Greg mentioned there are existing IIO drivers doing similar power
> >>> measurements.  So yes, a driver for such a part would be welcome.
> >>>
> >>> I can see we may be 'straining' some of the interfaces a bit for those
> >>> 48 bit values, but we can probably do something simple using the
> >>> two 32 bit values available from a raw read in IIO.
> >>>
> >>> Going to get awkward the first time we get a 65+ bit device though.
> >>> There goes my assumptions again :(
> >>>
> >>> Anyhow, nice sounding part so looking forward to seeing some code when
> >>> you are ready.
> >>>
> >>> Note we do have additional energy drivers still in staging (dating back
> >>> to the early days of IIO) but those are 3 phase units so not so relevant
> >>> (and their interfaces need some work which is why they are still in
> >>> staging).
> >>>
> >>> The adc/ina2xx_adc.c driver is probably a better place to start.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. The only thing that makes me doubt IIO as the obvious place is
> >>> that the focus is clearly on PC energy monitoring.  Now you can bridge
> >>> IIO to hwmon but I'd like a bit of input from Guenter on
> >>> whether that is a sensible approach here.
> >>>  
> >>
> >> I don't think I have enough information for a sensible answer. What
> >> else besides raw energy measurement do the chips support ? Do they have
> >> limits / alarms ? Do they measure voltage and current as well ?
> >> If not, iio would be the better place. If the chips support PMBus
> >> (which would make sense, but it doesn't sound like it), hwmon would
> >> obviously be better, since it already has the necessary infrastructure.  
> > 
> > There is also some precedence for these kinds of devices in the power-supply
> > framework. E.g. the LTC2941 and similar work in a similar way to whats
> > described above
> > (https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/power/supply/ltc2941-battery-gauge.c
> > http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/2941fb.pdf). Isn't it lovely to have
> > so much choice?
> >   
> 
> We already know from customers that USB-C net energy measurement
> (in and out) is also an aimed target of operation for the chip.
> 
> So, we really don't know where it fits best.
> And yes it is lovely to have so much choice and he who has a
> choice, has the doldrums.
> 
> thanks,
> Chris

My gut feeling is IIO and bridge to other subsystems as needed.

J

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