Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: gpu: Mention the requirements for new properties

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On 6/16/21 4:38 PM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
New KMS properties come with a bunch of requirements to avoid each
driver from running their own, inconsistent, set of properties,
eventually leading to issues like property conflicts, inconsistencies
between drivers and semantics, etc.

Let's document what we expect.

Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@xxxxxxx>
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Cc: Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: Philippe Cornu <philippe.cornu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: Shawn Guo <shawnguo@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx>
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Reviewed-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime@xxxxxxxxxx>

---

Changes from v3:
   - Roll back to the v2
   - Add Simon and Pekka in Cc

Changes from v2:
   - Take into account the feedback from Laurent and Lidiu to no longer
     force generic properties, but prefix vendor-specific properties with
     the vendor name

Changes from v1:
   - Typos and wording reported by Daniel and Alex
---
  Documentation/gpu/drm-kms.rst | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms.rst b/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms.rst
index 87e5023e3f55..c28b464dd397 100644
--- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms.rst
+++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms.rst
@@ -463,6 +463,25 @@ KMS Properties
  This section of the documentation is primarily aimed at user-space developers.
  For the driver APIs, see the other sections.
+Requirements
+------------
+
+KMS drivers might need to add extra properties to support new features.
+Each new property introduced in a driver need to meet a few
+requirements, in addition to the one mentioned above.:
+
+- It must be standardized, with some documentation to describe how the
+  property can be used.
+
+- It must provide a generic helper in the core code to register that
+  property on the object it attaches to.
+
+- Its content must be decoded by the core and provided in the object's
+  associated state structure. That includes anything drivers might want to
+  precompute, like :c:type:`struct drm_clip_rect <drm_clip_rect>` for planes.
+
+- An IGT test must be submitted where reasonable.
+
  Property Types and Blob Property Support
  ----------------------------------------

Hi,

Regarding properties, we have a “case study example” related in a certain way to this documentation update :-)

The use case: on a front desk at an exhibition, there is a welcome screen you can touch for searching various information. When this welcome screen is in idle, a small logo is displayed at its center (around 20% of the fullscreen). The logo has a white background color. We want to reduce the ddr usage for lowering the power (the board is battery powered) so the idea is to use a white background color around this logo, produced by the drm CRTC so the image in ddr is only the size of the logo.

Reading the thread https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2019-October/239733.html dissuade us from coding a generic solution, so we started to implement a "STM_" private background color property, it works... but we are not at all convince this is the right way and we clearly prefer mainline/generic sw for both kernel & userland.

So now, what are our options... well, this v4 documentation update is I think clear enough: we have to document + provide a generic helper in the core code (similar to the original patch) + update IGT test, right?

Thanks
Philippe :-)

Note: It is really a pleasure to read such interesting thread, exposing the “complexity” of our job, dealing with various hw and sw... thank you to all of you.





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