Hi Jonathan. Wondering if this slipped through the cracks, as I haven't heart anything (or did I miss it?). Would IMHO have been nice to have in 5.13 as well, but it's not crucial. On 15.04.21 12:29, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > When reporting a regression, users ideally should CC the subsystem and > its maintainers, as that will ensure they get aware of the regression > quickly. And if the culprit is known, they should also CC everyone who > signed if off; the text mentioned the latter in once place already, but Side note (just spotted this from a corner of my eye): s/once/one/ in that line. Ciao, Thorsten > forgot to do so in two other areas where it's relevant. > > While fixing this also remind readers to check the mailing list archives > for issues that need to be reported to a bug tracker, as someone might > have reported it by mail only. > > All of this got triggered by a recent report where these changes would > have made a difference. > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/dff6badf-58f5-98c8-871c-94d901ac6919@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAJZ5v0hX2StQVttAciHYH-urUH+Hi92z9z2ZbcNgQPt0E2Jpwg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > --- > .../admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst | 49 ++++++++++++------- > 1 file changed, 30 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst > index 48b4d0ef2b09..18d8e25ba9df 100644 > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst > @@ -24,7 +24,8 @@ longterm series? One still supported? Then search the `LKML > you don't find any, install `the latest release from that series > <https://kernel.org/>`_. If it still shows the issue, report it to the stable > mailing list (stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) and CC the regressions list > -(regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). > +(regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); ideally also CC the maintainer and the mailing > +list for the subsystem in question. > > In all other cases try your best guess which kernel part might be causing the > issue. Check the :ref:`MAINTAINERS <maintainers>` file for how its developers > @@ -48,8 +49,9 @@ before the issue occurs. > If you are facing multiple issues with the Linux kernel at once, report each > separately. While writing your report, include all information relevant to the > issue, like the kernel and the distro used. In case of a regression, CC the > -regressions mailing list (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) to your report; also try > -to include the commit-id of the change causing it, which a bisection can find. > +regressions mailing list (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) to your report. Also try > +to pin-point the culprit with a bisection; if you succeed, include its > +commit-id and CC everyone in the sign-off-by chain. > > Once the report is out, answer any questions that come up and help where you > can. That includes keeping the ball rolling by occasionally retesting with newer > @@ -198,10 +200,11 @@ report them: > > * Send a short problem report to the Linux stable mailing list > (stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) and CC the Linux regressions mailing list > - (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). Roughly describe the issue and ideally > - explain how to reproduce it. Mention the first version that shows the > - problem and the last version that's working fine. Then wait for further > - instructions. > + (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); if you suspect the cause in a particular > + subsystem, CC its maintainer and its mailing list. Roughly describe the > + issue and ideally explain how to reproduce it. Mention the first version > + that shows the problem and the last version that's working fine. Then > + wait for further instructions. > > The reference section below explains each of these steps in more detail. > > @@ -768,7 +771,9 @@ regular internet search engine and add something like > the results to the archives at that URL. > > It's also wise to check the internet, LKML and maybe bugzilla.kernel.org again > -at this point. > +at this point. If your report needs to be filed in a bug tracker, you may want > +to check the mailing list archives for the subsystem as well, as someone might > +have reported it only there. > > For details how to search and what to do if you find matching reports see > "Search for existing reports, first run" above. > @@ -1249,9 +1254,10 @@ and the oldest where the issue occurs (say 5.8-rc1). > > When sending the report by mail, CC the Linux regressions mailing list > (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). In case the report needs to be filed to some web > -tracker, proceed to do so; once filed, forward the report by mail to the > -regressions list. Make sure to inline the forwarded report, hence do not attach > -it. Also add a short note at the top where you mention the URL to the ticket. > +tracker, proceed to do so. Once filed, forward the report by mail to the > +regressions list; CC the maintainer and the mailing list for the subsystem in > +question. Make sure to inline the forwarded report, hence do not attach it. > +Also add a short note at the top where you mention the URL to the ticket. > > When mailing or forwarding the report, in case of a successful bisection add the > author of the culprit to the recipients; also CC everyone in the signed-off-by > @@ -1536,17 +1542,20 @@ Report the regression > > *Send a short problem report to the Linux stable mailing list > (stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) and CC the Linux regressions mailing list > - (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). Roughly describe the issue and ideally > - explain how to reproduce it. Mention the first version that shows the > - problem and the last version that's working fine. Then wait for further > - instructions.* > + (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); if you suspect the cause in a particular > + subsystem, CC its maintainer and its mailing list. Roughly describe the > + issue and ideally explain how to reproduce it. Mention the first version > + that shows the problem and the last version that's working fine. Then > + wait for further instructions.* > > When reporting a regression that happens within a stable or longterm kernel > line (say when updating from 5.10.4 to 5.10.5) a brief report is enough for > -the start to get the issue reported quickly. Hence a rough description is all > -it takes. > +the start to get the issue reported quickly. Hence a rough description to the > +stable and regressions mailing list is all it takes; but in case you suspect > +the cause in a particular subsystem, CC its maintainers and its mailing list > +as well, because that will speed things up. > > -But note, it helps developers a great deal if you can specify the exact version > +And note, it helps developers a great deal if you can specify the exact version > that introduced the problem. Hence if possible within a reasonable time frame, > try to find that version using vanilla kernels. Lets assume something broke when > your distributor released a update from Linux kernel 5.10.5 to 5.10.8. Then as > @@ -1563,7 +1572,9 @@ pinpoint the exact change that causes the issue (which then can easily get > reverted to fix the issue quickly). Hence consider to do a proper bisection > right away if time permits. See the section 'Special care for regressions' and > the document 'Documentation/admin-guide/bug-bisect.rst' for details how to > -perform one. > +perform one. In case of a successful bisection add the author of the culprit to > +the recipients; also CC everyone in the signed-off-by chain, which you find at > +the end of its commit message. > > > Reference for "Reporting issues only occurring in older kernel version lines" > > base-commit: 6161a4b18a66746c3f5afa72c054d7e58e49c847 >