From: Peter Zijlstra > Sent: 16 April 2021 15:19 > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 02:07:49PM +0100, Wedson Almeida Filho wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 01:24:23PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > int perf_event_task_enable(void) > > > { > > > + DEFINE_MUTEX_GUARD(event_mutex, ¤t->perf_event_mutex); > > > > There is nothing in C forcing developers to actually use DEFINE_MUTEX_GUARD. So > > someone may simply forget (or not know that they need) to lock > > current->perf_event_mutex and directly access some field protected by it. This > > is unlikely to happen when one first writes the code, but over time as different > > people modify the code and invariants change, it is possible for this to happen. > > > > In Rust, this isn't possible: the data protected by a lock is only accessible > > when the lock is locked. So developers cannot accidentally make mistakes of this > > kind. And since the enforcement happens at compile time, there is no runtime > > cost. > > > > This, we believe, is fundamental to the discussion: we agree that many of these > > idioms can be implemented in C (albeit in this case with a compiler extension), > > but their use is optional, people can (and do) still make mistakes that lead to > > vulnerabilities; Rust disallows classes of mistakes by construction. > > Does this also not prohibit constructs where modification must be done > while holding two locks, but reading can be done while holding either > lock? > > That's a semi common scheme in the kernel, but not something that's > expressible by, for example, the Java sync keyword. > > It also very much doesn't work for RCU, where modification must be done > under a lock, but access is done essentially lockless. ... Or the cases where the locks are released in the 'wrong' order. Typically for: lock(table) item = lookup(table, key) lock(item) unlock(table) ... unlock(item) (In the kernel the table lock might be RCU.) Or, with similar data: write_lock(table); foreach(item, table) lock(item) unlock(item) /* No items can be locked until we release the write_lock. ... unlock(table) You can also easily end up with a 'fubar' we have at work where someone wrote a C++ condvar class that inherits from mutex. David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)