On 26.03.21 07:13, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Lo! Since a few months mainline in > Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst contains a text written > to obsolete the good old reporting-bugs text. For now, the new document > still contains a warning at the top that basically says "this is WIP". > But I'd like to remove that warning and delete reporting-bugs.rst in the > next merge window to make reporting-issues.rst fully official. With this > mail I want to give everyone a chance to take a look at the text and > speak up if you don't want me to move ahead for now. > > For easier review I'll post the text of reporting-issues.rst in reply to > this mail. I'll do that in a few chunks, as if this was a cover letter > for a patch-set. Reference for "Reporting issues only occurring in older kernel version lines" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This subsection provides details for step you need to perform if you face a regression within a stable and longterm kernel line. Make sure the particular version line still gets support ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Check if the kernel developers still maintain the Linux kernel version line you care about: go to the front page of kernel.org and make sure it mentions the latest release of the particular version line without an '[EOL]' tag.* Most kernel version lines only get supported for about three months, as maintaining them longer is quite a lot of work. Hence, only one per year is chosen and gets supported for at least two years (often six). That's why you need to check if the kernel developers still support the version line you care for. Note, if kernel.org lists two 'stable' version lines on the front page, you should consider switching to the newer one and forget about the older one: support for it is likely to be abandoned soon. Then it will get a "end-of-life" (EOL) stamp. Version lines that reached that point still get mentioned on the kernel.org front page for a week or two, but are unsuitable for testing and reporting. Search stable mailing list ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Check the archives of the Linux stable mailing list for existing reports.* Maybe the issue you face is already known and was fixed or is about to. Hence, `search the archives of the Linux stable mailing list <https://lore.kernel.org/stable/>`_ for reports about an issue like yours. If you find any matches, consider joining the discussion, unless the fix is already finished and scheduled to get applied soon. Reproduce issue with the newest release ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Install the latest release from the particular version line as a vanilla kernel. Ensure this kernel is not tainted and still shows the problem, as the issue might have already been fixed there.* Before investing any more time in this process you want to check if the issue was already fixed in the latest release of version line you're interested in. This kernel needs to be vanilla and shouldn't be tainted before the issue happens, as detailed outlined already above in the section "Install a fresh kernel for testing". Report the regression ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Send a short problem report by mail to the people and mailing lists the :ref:`MAINTAINERS <maintainers>` file specifies in the section 'STABLE BRANCH'. Roughly describe the issue and ideally explain how to reproduce it. Mention the first version that shows the problem and the last version that's working fine. Then wait for further instructions.* When reporting a regression that happens within a stable or longterm kernel line (say when updating from 5.10.4 to 5.10.5) a brief report is enough for the start to get the issue reported quickly. Hence a rough description is all it takes. But note, it helps developers a great deal if you can specify the exact version that introduced the problem. Hence if possible within a reasonable time frame, try to find that version using vanilla kernels. Lets assume something broke when your distributor released a update from Linux kernel 5.10.5 to 5.10.8. Then as instructed above go and check the latest kernel from that version line, say 5.10.9. If it shows the problem, try a vanilla 5.10.5 to ensure that no patches the distributor applied interfere. If the issue doesn't manifest itself there, try 5.10.7 and then (depending on the outcome) 5.10.8 or 5.10.6 to find the first version where things broke. Mention it in the report and state that 5.10.9 is still broken. What the previous paragraph outlines is basically a rough manual 'bisection'. Once your report is out your might get asked to do a proper one, as it allows to pinpoint the exact change that causes the issue (which then can easily get reverted to fix the issue quickly). Hence consider to do a proper bisection right away if time permits. See the section 'Special care for regressions' and the document 'Documentation/admin-guide/bug-bisect.rst' for details how to perform one. Reference for "Reporting regressions within a stable and longterm kernel line" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This section provides details for steps you need to take if you could not reproduce your issue with a mainline kernel, but want to see it fixed in older version lines (aka stable and longterm kernels). Some fixes are too complex ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Prepare yourself for the possibility that going through the next few steps might not get the issue solved in older releases: the fix might be too big or risky to get backported there.* Even small and seemingly obvious code-changes sometimes introduce new and totally unexpected problems. The maintainers of the stable and longterm kernels are very aware of that and thus only apply changes to these kernels that are within rules outlined in 'Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst'. Complex or risky changes for example do not qualify and thus only get applied to mainline. Other fixes are easy to get backported to the newest stable and longterm kernels, but too risky to integrate into older ones. So be aware the fix you are hoping for might be one of those that won't be backported to the version line your care about. In that case you'll have no other choice then to live with the issue or switch to a newer Linux version, unless you want to patch the fix into your kernels yourself. Common preparations ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Perform the first three steps in the section "Reporting issues only occurring in older kernel version lines" above.* You need to carry out a few steps already described in another section of this guide. Those steps will let you: * Check if the kernel developers still maintain the Linux kernel version line you care about. * Search the Linux stable mailing list for exiting reports. * Check with the latest release. Check code history and search for existing discussions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Search the Linux kernel version control system for the change that fixed the issue in mainline, as its commit message might tell you if the fix is scheduled for backporting already. If you don't find anything that way, search the appropriate mailing lists for posts that discuss such an issue or peer-review possible fixes; then check the discussions if the fix was deemed unsuitable for backporting. If backporting was not considered at all, join the newest discussion, asking if it's in the cards.* In a lot of cases the issue you deal with will have happened with mainline, but got fixed there. The commit that fixed it would need to get backported as well to get the issue solved. That's why you want to search for it or any discussions abound it. * First try to find the fix in the Git repository that holds the Linux kernel sources. You can do this with the web interfaces `on kernel.org <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/>`_ or its mirror `on GitHub <https://github.com/torvalds/linux>`_; if you have a local clone you alternatively can search on the command line with ``git log --grep=<pattern>``. If you find the fix, look if the commit message near the end contains a 'stable tag' that looks like this: Cc: <stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> # 5.4+ If that's case the developer marked the fix safe for backporting to version line 5.4 and later. Most of the time it's getting applied there within two weeks, but sometimes it takes a bit longer. * If the commit doesn't tell you anything or if you can't find the fix, look again for discussions about the issue. Search the net with your favorite internet search engine as well as the archives for the `Linux kernel developers mailing list <https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/>`_. Also read the section `Locate kernel area that causes the issue` above and follow the instructions to find the subsystem in question: its bug tracker or mailing list archive might have the answer you are looking for. * If you see a proposed fix, search for it in the version control system as outlined above, as the commit might tell you if a backport can be expected. * Check the discussions for any indicators the fix might be too risky to get backported to the version line you care about. If that's the case you have to live with the issue or switch to the kernel version line where the fix got applied. * If the fix doesn't contain a stable tag and backporting was not discussed, join the discussion: mention the version where you face the issue and that you would like to see it fixed, if suitable. Ask for advice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *One of the former steps should lead to a solution. If that doesn't work out, ask the maintainers for the subsystem that seems to be causing the issue for advice; CC the mailing list for the particular subsystem as well as the stable mailing list.* If the previous three steps didn't get you closer to a solution there is only one option left: ask for advice. Do that in a mail you sent to the maintainers for the subsystem where the issue seems to have its roots; CC the mailing list for the subsystem as well as the stable mailing list the :ref:`MAINTAINERS <maintainers>` file mention in the section "STABLE BRANCH".