Am 12.01.21 um 00:42 schrieb Randy Dunlap: > On 1/11/21 10:55 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Am 11.01.21 um 19:14 schrieb Randy Dunlap: >>> On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>> Andrew Morton takes MM bugs and Cc:s them to linux-mm mailing list >>> and then asks for discussion to continue on the mailing list. >> Then what use it bugzilla here? Wouldn't it be better for people to go >> straight to the list? > Might as well, yes. Yeah, and that's among the reasons why I wrote the new document on reporting bugs/issues (which explains how to report issues by mail) and additionally work (at least for now) towards discouraging people from using bugzilla.kernel.org. >> Just trying to understand things better here, as there are other things >> that look strange to me and were mentioned in the patch description. For >> example: Why are there only 200 products and components on >> bugzilla.kernel.org (some of them for historic things like the >> ac-kernels) while the MAINTAINERS file has more than 2200 entries? > I wouldn't want a separate entry for each SPI/GPIO/regulator/USB etc. > device. That's just IMO... I can relate to that view, but OTOH that would means a middleperson is needed to get in contact with the maintainer. Which is fine concept, as that person could be a kind of 1st level support that shields higher level people like developers and maintainers from bad bug reports. But I guess that would be a boring job which I nobody will do over longer periods of time just for fun. Sure, the LF or someone else could hire someone (see the mail from Konstantin in this thread; will reply to that later); but I wonder if we have more pressing issues where the money would better be spend better. And even if not: getting that money and hiring someone would take some time... >>> could/should probably see if we can add more project-specific >>> mailing lists to the automatic reporting >> Guess that would mean taking to a lot of maintainers/mailing list admins >> if they are okay with that. Who would do that? > whoever is motivated to do so. Not me. ;-) That bugzilla.kernel.org is not working to well is known for years now, without anyone stepping up to improve the situation for real. Maybe my work/this discussion gets something rolling. But I guess until I see that happen I continue working towards discouraging people from using bugzilla.kernel.org, as otherwise things will just stay as they are, which IMHO is a bad idea with the state of things. Ciao, Thorsten