On Fri, Dec 18 2020 at 11:20, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:58 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > [..] >> 5) The DAX case which you made "work" with dev_access_enable() and >> dev_access_disable(), i.e. with yet another lazy approach of >> avoiding to change a handful of usage sites. >> >> The use cases are strictly context local which means the global >> magic is not used at all. Why does it exist in the first place? >> >> Aside of that this global thing would never work at all because the >> refcounting is per thread and not global. >> >> So that DAX use case is just a matter of: >> >> grant/revoke_access(DEV_PKS_KEY, READ/WRITE) >> >> which is effective for the current execution context and really >> wants to be a distinct READ/WRITE protection and not the magic >> global thing which just has on/off. All usage sites know whether >> they want to read or write. > > I was tracking and nodding until this point. Yes, kill the global / > kmap() support, but if grant/revoke_access is not integrated behind > kmap_{local,atomic}() then it's not a "handful" of sites that need to > be instrumented it's 100s. Are you suggesting that "relaxed" mode > enforcement is a way to distribute the work of teaching driver writers > that they need to incorporate explicit grant/revoke-read/write in > addition to kmap? The entire reason PTE_DEVMAP exists was to allow > get_user_pages() for PMEM and not require every downstream-GUP code > path to specifically consider whether it was talking to PMEM or RAM > pages, and certainly not whether they were reading or writing to it. kmap_local() is fine. That can work automatically because it's strict local to the context which does the mapping. kmap() is dubious because it's a 'global' mapping as dictated per HIGHMEM. So doing the RELAXED mode for kmap() is sensible I think to identify cases where the mapped address is really handed to a different execution context. We want to see those cases and analyse whether this can't be solved in a different way. That's why I suggested to do a warning in that case. Also vs. the DAX use case I really meant the code in fs/dax and drivers/dax/ itself which is handling this via dax_read_[un]lock. Does that make more sense? Thanks, tglx