Hi Sumit, Jarkko, On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 10:55 -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > Re-posting Elaine Palmer's comments, inline below, trimmed and properly > formatted. Continued ... Thank you for the detailed descriptions and examples of trust sources for Trusted Keys. A group of us in IBM (Stefan Berger, Ken Goldman, Zhongshu Gu, Nayna Jain, Elaine Palmer, George Wilson, Mimi Zohar) have some concerns with extending trusted keys to new sources without providing a threat model. The following is based on our internal discussions. > * Threat model > > The strength and appropriateness of TPMs and TEEs for a given purpose > must be assessed when using them to protect security-relevant data. The original Trusted Keys implementation assumed discrete physical TPMs for key protection[1]. However, even physical TPMs themselves vary based on the manufacturer and systems in which they are placed. The embedded chipset, firmware load, algorithms, packaging, pins, and countermeasures vary. (Threats and mitigations on physical TPMs are well documented, e.g., "Threat Model of a Scenario Based on Trusted Platform Module 2.0 Specification” (http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1011/6.pdf). Extending Trusted Keys to support new trust sources needs to provide consumers of these new sources enough information so that they can create their own threat models tailored to their use cases. Just as each new LSM needs to comply with Documentation/security/lsm- development.rst, we recommend each new source should provide a high- level threat model. We suggest documenting environmental assumptions and dependencies in a high-level threat model for each additional trust source. An example of a high-level threat model is "Common Security Threats v1.0” ( https://www.opencompute.org/documents/common-security-threats-notes-1-pdf ). Thank you, Elaine (and Mimi) [1] Specific to Trusted Keys and TPMs, there is some discussion of threats and mitigations in the Integrity_overview.pdf on the IMA wiki: "The trusted key component does two things to help with secure key management on Linux. First, it provides a kernel key ring service in which the symmetric encryption keys are never visible in plain text to userspace. The keys are created in the kernel, and sealed by a hardware device such as a TPM, with userspace seeing only the sealed blobs. Malicious or compromised applications cannot steal a trusted key, since only the kernel can see the unsealed blobs. Secondly, the trusted keys can tie key unsealing to the integrity measurements, so that keys cannot be stolen in an offline attack, such as by booting an unlocked Linux image from CD or USB. As the measurements will be different, the TPM chip will refuse to unseal the keys, even for the kernel."
