On 3/2/20 5:43 PM, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:19 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>
>>> On 3/2/20 4:57 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>> Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried this with s/EACCESS/EACCES/.
>>>>>
>>>>> The test case in this patch is not fixed, but strace does not freeze,
>>>>> at least with my setup where it did freeze repeatable.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, That is what I was aiming at.
>>>>
>>>> So we have one method we can pursue to fix this in practice.
>>>>
>>>>> That is
>>>>> obviously because it bypasses the cred_guard_mutex. But all other
>>>>> process that access this file still freeze, and cannot be
>>>>> interrupted except with kill -9.
>>>>>
>>>>> However that smells like a denial of service, that this
>>>>> simple test case which can be executed by guest, creates a /proc/$pid/mem
>>>>> that freezes any process, even root, when it looks at it.
>>>>> I mean: "ln -s README /proc/$pid/mem" would be a nice bomb.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Your the test case in your patch a variant of the original
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been staring at this trying to understand the fundamentals of the
>>>> original deeper problem.
>>>>
>>>> The current scope of cred_guard_mutex in exec is because being ptraced
>>>> causes suid exec to act differently. So we need to know early if we are
>>>> ptraced.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It has a second use, that it prevents two threads entering execve,
>>> which would probably result in disaster.
>>
>> Exec can fail with an error code up until de_thread. de_thread causes
>> exec to fail with the error code -EAGAIN for the second thread to get
>> into de_thread.
>>
>> So no. The cred_guard_mutex is not needed for that case at all.
>>
>>>> If that case did not exist we could reduce the scope of the
>>>> cred_guard_mutex in exec to where your patch puts the cred_change_mutex.
>>>>
>>>> I am starting to think reworking how we deal with ptrace and exec is the
>>>> way to solve this problem.
>>
>>
>> I am 99% convinced that the fix is to move cred_guard_mutex down.
>
> "move cred_guard_mutex down" as in "take it once we've already set up
> the new process, past the point of no return"?
>
>> Then right after we take cred_guard_mutex do:
>> if (ptraced) {
>> use_original_creds();
>> }
>>
>> And call it a day.
>>
>> The details suck but I am 99% certain that would solve everyones
>> problems, and not be too bad to audit either.
>
> Ah, hmm, that sounds like it'll work fine at least when no LSMs are involved.
>
> SELinux normally doesn't do the execution-degrading thing, it just
> blocks the execution completely - see their selinux_bprm_set_creds()
> hook. So I think they'd still need to set some state on the task that
> says "we're currently in the middle of an execution where the target
> task will run in context X", and then check against that in the
> ptrace_may_access hook. Or I suppose they could just kill the task
> near the end of execve, although that'd be kinda ugly.
>
We have current->in_execve for that, right?
I think when the cred_guard_mutex is taken only in the critical section,
then PTRACE_ATTACH could take the guard_mutex, and look at current->in_execve,
and just return -EAGAIN in that case, right, everybody happy :)
Bernd.
