On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 17/08/2019 09:44, Borislav Petkov wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:25:24PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote: > >> I'm afraid that a number of hypervisors do write-discard, given the > >> propensity of OSes (certainly traditionally) to go poking at bits like > >> this without wrmsr_safe(). > >> > >> You either need to read the MSR back and observe that the bit has really > >> changed, or in this case as Thomas suggests, look at CPUID again (which > >> will likely be the faster option for the non-virtualised case). > > One thing I didn't think of when we talked about this: this happens only > > after you resume the hypervisor. > > :) It hadn't escaped my notice, hence the intervention on this thread. > > > And the words "resume the hypervisor" already means an improbable use case. > > Qubes and OpenXT are two laptop+hypervisor oriented distros where > suspend/resume is a big deal, and these will have to follow AMD's > recommendation here. > > However, for servers which don't do S3/S4, we can reason about safely > leaving RDRAND enabled, irrespective of guest configuration. Let the administrator reason about it. Default is off for sanity sake. Thanks, tglx