On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 07:48:39AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote: > On Tue, 04 Jun 2019, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 11:39:21AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 11:35 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman > > > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 01:58:38PM -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote: > > > > > Hey Greg, > > > > > > > > > > > > + dev_info(&pdev->dev, "Created misc device /dev/%s\n", > > > > > > > + data->misc.name); > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to be noisy, if all goes well, your code should be quiet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sometimes wonder about this being noise or not, so I will slightly > > > > > hijack this thread for this discussion. > > > > > > > > > > >From a kernel developer point-of-view, or even from a platform > > > > > developer or user with a debugging hat point-of-view, having > > > > > a "device created" or "device registered" message is often very useful. > > > > > > > > For you, yes. For someone with 30000 devices attached to their system, > > > > it is not, and causes booting to take longer than it should be. > > Who has 30,000 devices attached to their systems? More than you might imagine. > I would argue that > in these special corner-cases, they should knock the log-level *down* > a notch. For the rest of us who run normal platforms, an extra second > of boot time renders a more forthcoming/useful system than if each of > our devices initialised silently. > > Personally I like to know what devices I have on my system, and the > kernel log is the first place I look. As far as I'm concerned, for > the most part, if it's not in the kernel log, I don't have it. Then you "do not have" lots of devices, as we have been removing these messages for a number of years now :) > "Oh wow, I didn't know I had XXX functionality on this platform." > > In my real job, I am currently enabling some newly released AArch64 > based laptops for booting with ACPI. I must have wasted a day whilst > enabling some of the devices the system relies upon, just to find > out that 90% of them were actually probing semi-fine (at least probe() > was succeeding), just silently. *grumble* Yup, that's normal. If you want to see what devices are in the system, look in /sys/devices/ as that is what it is for, not the kernel log. thanks, greg k-h