On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:52:26 +0100 David Howells <dhowells@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > There've been some changes that I've particularly objected to, such as > removing contents lists from files and replacing them with markup like: > > .. contents:: :local: > > This actually impedes use of the file. It should not be necessary to build > the docs to get that for ordinary use. Usability of the text files versus that of the built docs is occasionally something that has to be traded off. As a general rule, I want the text files to remain useful on their own. There is a lot of value in the built docs for a lot of people, but that should not be the only, or even the primary, form of access Tables of contents are certainly a place where that tradeoff makes itself felt. Doing them by hand ensures that they are always present, but requires that people editing the docs also maintain the TOCS - something that experience has shown tends not to happen. That's more of a pain than a little bit of markup, and people don't do it. An automatically generated TOC, instead, is always correct and is linkable. Few people complain about the biggest impediment to the readability of text files, though: the use of kerneldoc comments. That splits the information between the text file and multiple random-seeming locations among tends of thousands of source files. Sometimes the solution here is to move all of the documentation into the source, but that tends to fragment it and make it harder to find; it's certainly not the right place for many kinds of docs. In general, it's hard to create a coherent story that way. Suggestions / patches on how to improve things for *all* users of the docs are certainly welcome! I am, incidentally, toying with the idea of trying to put together a documentation microconf at the Linux Plumbers Conference this year. If anybody out there thinks that's a good idea and would like to participate, please let me know. > Anyway, the biggest doc issue in the kernel isn't addressed by the conversion > to ReST: and that is that most people don't seem interested in documenting > stuff - whether because writing documentation isn't as fun as writing code or > the fact that English isn't their native language, I don't know. I can > sympathise more with the latter. I believe there's enough experience now to say that using RST increases contributions to the documentation. Just having something that approaches a coherent approach to docs (though we are a *long* way from that still) makes the whole thing more accessible. It doesn't solve our documentation issues by any stretch, but it helps. Thanks, jon