On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 2:10:51 AM CET Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Monday, November 20, 2017 2:42:26 PM CET Ulf Hansson wrote: > > On 18 November 2017 at 15:41, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Make the PM core handle DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED directly for > > > devices whose "noirq", "late" and "early" driver callbacks are > > > invoked directly by it. > > > > This indicates that your target for this particular change isn't > > ACPI/PCI, but instead this aims to be a more generic solution to be > > able to optimize the resume path for devices. > > > > Assuming, this is the case, I don't think this is good enough as I > > pointed out [1] earlier. Simply because it isn't as flexible as is > > required - to really be able cover generic cases. > > I'll go back to that message, but nothing so far has been flexible enough to > cover everything you can imagine. > > The case this and the next patch cover really is to allow drivers that can be > used with or without a PM domain to avoid doing any "are we suspended?" type > of checks in their callbacks. Actually, the [6/6] is more important from that > standpoint, but this one also may play the role because of the dependencies > between devices involved in the handling of LEAVE_SUSPENDED (eg. say a PCI > parent has a child platform or I2C or similar devices without a PM domain > and what happens to the child affects the parent). > > > > > > > Namely, make it skip all of the system-wide resume callbacks for > > > such devices with DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED set if they are in > > > runtime suspend during the "noirq" phase of system-wide suspend > > > (or analogous) transitions or the system transition under way is > > > a proper suspend (rather than anything related to hibernation) and > > > the device's wakeup settings are compatible with runtime PM (that > > > is, the device cannot generate wakeup signals at all or it is > > > allowed to wake up the system from sleep). > > > > As I pointed out by submitting another patch [2], device_may_wakeup() > > doesn't really tell whether the wakeup is configured as "in-band" or > > "out-of-band". That knowledge is known by the driver and the subsystem > > layer - and for that reason I don't think the PM core shall base > > generic decisions like this on it. > > The "or it is allowed to wake up the system from sleep" case may be overly > optimistic, but the remaining two (runtime-suspended devices and devices > that can't generate wakeup signals at all) are quite straightforward to me. BTW, I'm not sure if the device_may_wakeup() check is really insufficient in this particular case. Say the device was not in runtime suspend before, but device_may_wakeup() returns "true" for it and the system is resuming from suspend. The device's state should be suitable to wake up the system in any case, so the "in-band" vs "out-of-band" difference has had to be taken care of already during system suspend. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html