On 2017/07/24 14:34:07 +0800, Boqun Feng wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 09:04:57AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > [...] >>> >>> ----------------->8 >>> Subject: [PATCH] kernel: Emphasize the return value of READ_ONCE() is honored >>> >>> READ_ONCE() is used around in kernel to provide a control dependency, >>> and to make the control dependency valid, we must 1) make the load of >>> READ_ONCE() actually happen and 2) make sure compilers take the return >>> value of READ_ONCE() serious. 1) is already done and commented, >>> and in current implementation, 2) is also considered done in the >>> same way as 1): a 'volatile' load. >>> >>> Whereas, Akira Yokosawa recently reported a problem that would be >>> triggered if 2) is not achieved. >> >> To clarity the timeline, it was Paul who pointed out it would become >> easier for compilers to optimize away the "if" statements in response >> to my suggestion of partial revert (">" -> ">="). >> > > Ah.. right, I missed that part. I will use proper sentences here like: > > During a recent discussion brought up by Akira Yokosawa on > memory-barriers.txt, a problem is discovered, which would be > triggered if 2) is not achieved. > > Works with you? Looks fine. Thanks! Akira > >>> Moreover, according to Paul Mckenney, >>> using volatile might not actually give us what we want for 2) depending >>> on compiler writers' definition of 'volatile'. Therefore it's necessary >>> to emphasize 2) as a part of the semantics of READ_ONCE(), this not only >>> fits the conceptual semantics we have been using, but also makes the >>> implementation requirement more accurate. >>> >>> In the future, we can either make compiler writers accept our use of >>> 'volatile', or(if that fails) find another way to provide this >>> guarantee. >>> >>> Cc: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@xxxxxxxxx> >>> --- >>> include/linux/compiler.h | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+) >>> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/compiler.h b/include/linux/compiler.h >>> index 219f82f3ec1a..8094f594427c 100644 >>> --- a/include/linux/compiler.h >>> +++ b/include/linux/compiler.h >>> @@ -305,6 +305,31 @@ static __always_inline void __write_once_size(volatile void *p, void *res, int s >>> * mutilate accesses that either do not require ordering or that interact >>> * with an explicit memory barrier or atomic instruction that provides the >>> * required ordering. >>> + * >>> + * The return value of READ_ONCE() should be honored by compilers, IOW, >>> + * compilers must treat the return value of READ_ONCE() as an unknown value at >>> + * compile time, i.e. no optimization should be done based on the value of a >>> + * READ_ONCE(). For example, the following code snippet: >>> + * >>> + * int a = 0; >>> + * int x = 0; >>> + * >>> + * void some_func() { >>> + * int t = READ_ONCE(a); >>> + * if (!t) >>> + * WRITE_ONCE(x, 1); >>> + * } >>> + * >>> + * , should never be optimized as: >>> + * >>> + * void some_func() { >>> + * WRITE_ONCE(x, 1); >>> + * } >> READ_ONCE() should still be honored. so maybe the following? >> > > Make sense. Thanks! > > Regaords, > Boqun > >> + * , should never be optimized as: >> + * >> + * void some_func() { >> + * int t = READ_ONCE(a); >> + * WRITE_ONCE(x, 1); >> + * } >> >> Thanks, Akira >> >>> + * >>> + * because the compiler is 'smart' enough to think the value of 'a' is never >>> + * changed. >>> + * >>> + * We provide this guarantee by making READ_ONCE() a *volatile* load. >>> */ >>> >>> #define __READ_ONCE(x, check) \ >>> >> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html