On 04/04/2017 02:39 PM, Radim Krčmář wrote:
2017-04-03 12:04+0200, Alexander Graf:
On 03/29/2017 02:11 PM, Radim Krčmář wrote:
2017-03-28 13:35-0700, Jim Mattson:
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
2017-03-27 15:34+0200, Alexander Graf:
On 15/03/2017 22:22, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
Guests running Mac OS 5, 6, and 7 (Leopard through Lion) have a problem:
unless explicitly provided with kernel command line argument
"idlehalt=0" they'd implicitly assume MONITOR and MWAIT availability,
without checking CPUID.
We currently emulate that as a NOP but on VMX we can do better: let
guest stop the CPU until timer, IPI or memory change. CPU will be busy
but that isn't any worse than a NOP emulation.
Note that mwait within guests is not the same as on real hardware
because halt causes an exit while mwait doesn't. For this reason it
might not be a good idea to use the regular MWAIT flag in CPUID to
signal this capability. Add a flag in the hypervisor leaf instead.
So imagine we had proper MWAIT emulation capabilities based on page faults.
In that case, we could do something as fancy as
Treat MWAIT as pass-through by default
Have a per-vcpu monitor timer 10 times a second in the background that
checks which instruction we're in
If we're in mwait for the last - say - 1 second, switch to emulated MWAIT,
if $IP was in non-mwait within that time, reset counter.
Or we could reuse external interrupts for sampling. Exits trigerred by
them would check for current instruction (probably would be best to
limit just to timer tick) and a sufficient ratio (> 0?) of other exits
would imply that MWAIT is not used.
Or instead maybe just reuse the adapter hlt logic?
Emulated MWAIT is very similar to emulated HLT, so reusing the logic
makes sense. We would just add new wakeup methods.
Either way, with that we should be able to get super low latency IPIs
running while still maintaining some sanity on systems which don't have
dedicated CPUs for workloads.
And we wouldn't need guest modifications, which is a great plus. So older
guests (and Windows?) could benefit from mwait as well.
There is no need guest modifications -- it could be exposed as standard
MWAIT feature to the guest, with responsibilities for guest/host-impact
on the user.
I think that the page-fault based MWAIT would require paravirt if it
should be enabled by default, because of performance concerns:
Enabling write protection on a page needs a VM exit on all other VCPUs
when beginning monitoring (to reload page permissions and prevent missed
writes).
We'd want to keep trapping writes to the page all the time because
toggling is slow, but this could regress performance for an OS that has
other data accessed by other VCPUs in that page.
No current interface can tell the guest that it should reserve the whole
page instead of what CPUID[5] says and that writes to the monitored page
are not "cheap", but can trigger a VM exit ...
CPUID.05H:EBX is supposed to address the false sharing issue. IIRC,
VMware Fusion reports 64 in CPUID.05H:EAX and 4096 in CPUID.05H:EBX
when running Mac OS X guests. Per Intel's SDM volume 3, section
8.10.5, "To avoid false wake-ups; use the largest monitor line size to
pad the data structure used to monitor writes. Software must make sure
that beyond the data structure, no unrelated data variable exists in
the triggering area for MWAIT. A pad may be needed to avoid this
situation." Unfortunately, most operating systems do not follow this
advice.
Right, EBX provides what we need to expose that the whole page is
monitored, thanks!
So coming back to the original patch, is there anything that should keep us
from exposing MWAIT straight into the guest at all times?
Just minor issues:
* OS X on Core 2 fails for unknown reason if we disable the instruction
trapping, which is an argument against doing it by default
So for that we should try and see if changing the exposed CPUID MWAIT
leaf helps. Currently we return 0/0 which is pretty bogus and might be
the reason OSX fails.
* idling guests would consume host CPU, which is a significant change
in behavior and shouldn't be done without userspace's involvement
That's the same as today, as idling guests with MWAIT would also today
end up in a NOP emulated loop.
Please bear in mind that I do not advocate to expose the MWAIT CPUID
flag. This is only for the instruction trap.
I think the best compromise is to add a capability for the MWAIT VM-exit
controls and let userspace expose MWAIT if it wishes to.
Will send a patch.
Please see my patch to force enable CPUID bits ;).
Alex
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