On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 04:27:32PM -0800, Joe Perches wrote: > a, On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 09:19 +0000, Nicholas Mc Guire wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Nicholas Mc Guire <hofrat@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > useleep_range() with a delta of 0 makes no sense and only prevents the > > > > timer subsystem from optimizing interrupts. As any user of usleep_range() > > > > is in non-atomic context the timer jitter is in the range of 10s of > > > > microseconds anyway. > > > > > > > > This adds a note making it clear that a range of 0 is a bad idea. > > > > > > So I don't really have anything to do with the timer subsystem, I'm just > > > their "consumer", so take this with a grain of salt. > > > > > > Documentation is good, but I don't think this will be enough. > > > > > > I think the only thing that will work is to detect and complain about > > > things like this automatically. Some ideas: > > > > > > * WARN_ON(min == max) or WARN_ON_ONCE(min == max) in usleep_range() > > > might be drastic, but it would get the job done eventually. > > > > > > * If you want to avoid the runtime overhead (and complaints about the > > > backtraces), you could wrap usleep_range() in a macro that does > > > BUILD_BUG_ON(min == max) if the parameters are build time constants > > > (they usually are). But you'd have to fix all the problem cases first. > > > > > > * You could try (to persuade Julia or Dan) to come up with a > > > cocci/smatch check for usleep_range() calls where min == max, so we > > > could get bug reports for this. This probably works on expressions, so > > > this would catch also cases where the parameters aren't built timea, > > > constants. > > You could also add a macro for usleep_range like > > #define usleep_range(a, b) \ > ({ \ > if (__builtin_constant_p(a) && __builtin_constant_p(b)) { \ > if (a == b) \ > __compiletime_warning("Better to use usleep_range with different values"); \ > else if (a > b) \ > __compiletime_error("usleep_range uses smaller value first"); \ > } \ > usleep_range(a, b); \ > }) > thanks for that "template" > and add parentheses around the actual function > definition for usleep_range in kernel/time/timer.c > so the macro works and these messages get emitted > at compile-time. > while compiletime warnings are a way to go I think that an external tool is more effective than anoying eveyone during build - ideally this type of issue is filtered out in the subsystem trees or -next latest so getting it into a coccinelle spatch and into one of the CI seems the most resonable way to go. And as a side-effect tools external to the build process allow analysis into the history of the kernel development (like statistics on API usage and bug history). thx! hofrat -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html