Re: [PATCH 06/12] ARM: kexec: advertise location of bootable RAM

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On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 01:04:28PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 08:57:34AM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> >> <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 08:26:00PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Russell,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Russell King
>> >> >> <rmk+kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > Advertise the location of bootable RAM to kexec-tools.  kexec needs to
>> >> >> > know where it can place the kernel in RAM, and so be executable when
>> >> >> > the system needs to jump into it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Advertise these areas in /proc/iomem with a "System RAM (boot alias)"
>> >> >> > tag.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Russell King <rmk+kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can you please also share git tree path of corresponding kexec-tools changes?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could it be a better idea (if things in user space become simpler)
>> >> >> that in stead of patch 5 and 6, we pass arch_phys_to_idmap_offset to
>> >> >> user space, and then user space manipulates existing "Crash kernel"
>> >> >> and "System RAM" resources.
>> >> >
>> >> > Given that it's only _one_ platform right now, I don't think that
>> >> > additional complexity is worth it.  It means that we have to invent
>> >>
>> >> Probably, I could not communicate it well.  I was not trying  to have
>> >> *additional* complexity. Wanted to see if things could be simpler
>> >> rather. So this is what my understanding was:
>> >> -- We create one patch to pass arch_phys_to_idmap_offset to user space
>> >> (say in /sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset)
>> >> -- We do not use patch 5,6,11 and 12 of this series. Probably few more
>> >> content of the series will go away.
>> >
>> > Patches 11 and 12 don't go away with what you're suggesting.  Patches
>> > 11 and 12 are necessary to allow the boot-view addresses to be passed
>> > into the kernel through kexec, and to allow kexec to find appropriate
>> > memory resources.
>>
>> But once we would have manipulated "start" and "end" of "Crash Kernel"
>> and "System RAM" resources in user space using
>> /sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset , then kernel through kexec system
>> call would have already receive boot-view addresses, no?
>
> Correct, but that's still a problem for all the reasons I gave in the
> email to which you replied to.
>
> I'm not sure where the misunderstanding is.

No, no..there is no misunderstanding. I agreed to your implementation
because that will work for generic cases and for me complete series is
OK.

I just wanted to clarify my understanding, and so was the last argument.

>
> Let me repeat: even if we do what you're suggesting, patches 11 and 12
> do *not* go away.  I've explained in detail why each of the changes are
> necessary (which you have cut from your reply.)
>

Again, it is just for clarifying myself.
I cut the reply because I understood that in patch 11 and 12, you
convert addresses passed by kexec tools from run time view to boot
view using different helpers like phys_to_boot_phys(). So, had kexec
system call passed boot view addresses, we would have not needed 11
and 12. This is what I wanted to clarify.

> In other words: exporting this offset via
> /sys/kernel/bootmem_idmap_offset is technically inferior to the solution
> I have come up with here, and it saves very little complexity and code.

I still have opinion that code will probably be more simple and reduce
significantly, however solution will siege to work the moment
idmap_offset is not a simple additive value.

Therefore, I am OK with your implementation.

~Pratyush
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