On Wed, 6 Apr 2016, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Yury Norov <ynorov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> v6: >> - time_t, __kenel_off_t and other types turned to be 32-bit >> for compatibility reasons (after v5 discussion); Introducing a new arch today with y2038 problems is not a good idea. Linus said so with appropriately pointy words in 2011. > What makes you think these "applications that can’t readily be migrated to LP64 > because they were written assuming an ILP32 data model, and that will never > become suitable for a LP64 data model and will remain locked into ILP32 > operating environments" are more likely to be fixed for y2038 later, than for > LP64 now? Such broken applications already have plenty of bogus architecture detection code so you need porting anyway... > We're already closer to the (future) y2038 than to the (past) introduction of > LP64... > > These unfixable legacy applications have been spreading through x32 to > the shiny new arm64 server architecture (does ppc64el also have an ILP32 mode, > or is it planned)? Lots of resources are spent on maintaining the status quo, > instead of on fixing the real problems. As an x32 (userland) porter, I can tell you that time_t!=long _did_ cause non-trivial amounts of work. But that work is already done (at least in Debian), so you might as well benefit from it. -- A tit a day keeps the vet away. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html