Hi, Thanks for taking the interest and commenting on this. Replies below. On wto, 2015-05-26 at 10:35 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > On 05/25/2015 08:32 AM, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote: > > --- Design ideas --- > > > > "Smack namespace" is rather "Smack labels namespace" as not the whole > > MAC is namespaced, only the labels. There is a great analogy between > > Smack labels namespace and the user namespace part that remaps UIDs. > > > > The idea is to create a map of labels for a namespace so the namespace > > is only allowed to use those labels. Smack rules are always the same > > as in the init namespace (limited only by what labels are mapped) and > > cannot be manipulated from the child namespace. The map is actually > > only for labels' names. The underlying structures for labels remain > > the same. The filesystem also stores the "unmapped" labels from the > > init namespace. > > How do you achieve that without introducing additional hooks or > reworking the current hooks in the setxattr code path? At present, the > security module is allowed to rewrite getxattr requests on the > security.* namespace but it isn't allowed to do that for setxattr, so if > the process invokes setxattr with a mapped label, then it will be the > mapped label that gets passed to the filesystem implementation, not the > unmapped label. The security module may internally store it in unmapped > form and may even return that upon getxattr() calls, but if you then > reboot the system and later fetch from the filesystem, it will get the > mapped label value. I call the inode operation by hand in the post_setxattr. The label will effectively be set twice, which is not ideal, but there is no other option right now without reworking the hooks as you said. This shouldn't really be a problem because the Smack operations will not use the filesystem label (even when it's set incorrectly for a moment) but an already initialized smack_known structure for this inode that has all the values filled in properly. The only attack vector I can think of is hard rebooting the machine in a way that mapped label is really saved in the filesystem before the unmapped will have a chance. Should I be worried about that? This sounds a little unreal. @@ -1163,12 +1214,24 @@ static void smack_inode_post_setxattr(struct dentry *dentry, const char *name, skpp = &isp->smk_mmap; if (skpp) { - skp = smk_get_label(value, size, true); + skp = smk_get_label(value, size, true, ns); if (!IS_ERR(skp)) *skpp = skp; else *skpp = &smack_known_invalid; + + /* + * The label we get above might be a different than the one + * kernel has already set before calling this function. + * Be consistent and set the final value in the filesystem. + * The cases for this are errors and labels being used + * in a namespace where we want to store an unmapped + * value in the filesystem. + */ + dentry->d_inode->i_op->setxattr(dentry, name, + (*skpp)->smk_known, + size, flags); } } > > > --- Usage --- > > > > Smack namespace is written using LSM hooks inside user namespace. That > > means it's connected to it. > > > > To create a new Smack namespace you need to unshare() user namespace > > as usual. If that is all you do though, than there is no difference to > > what is now. To activate the Smack namespace you need to fill the > > labels' map. It is in a file /proc/$PID/smack_map. > > This should be /proc/$PID/attr/label_map or similar, modeled after the > existing /proc/$PID/attr/current and similar nodes. Then it isn't > module-specific and can be reused for other modules. Sure. I had some thoughts about that, but couldn't really figure out which option would be best. I'll change it as suggested. > > Writing to the map file is not disabled after the first write as it is > > in uid_map. For Smack we have no means to map ranges of labels, hence > > it can really be advantageous to be able to expand the map later > > on. But you can only add to the map. You cannot remove already mapped > > labels. You cannot change the already existing mappings. Also mappings > > has to be 1-1. All requests to create a map where either the unmapped > > or the mapped label already exists in the map will be denied. > > Isn't it a concern that I can then add additional labels to the mapping > for which I am not authorized? Or is this mitigated by the fact that I > cannot alter the rules? You can't add mappings for which you are not authorized. This is mitigated by both, by the fact that adding a mapping is a privileged operation in the parent (only init for now) namespace and that modifying the rules is a privileged operation allowed only in the init namespace (as it is now). > What about the situation for the predefined > labels in Smack - are you assuming that they will always be mapped up > front in the mapping file? If somebody wants to have a full Smack aware container with full Smack functionality that's what I'd expect, but it's not mandatory. -- Lukasz Pawelczyk Samsung R&D Institute Poland Samsung Electronics -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html