On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:50:15 -0800 Mina Almasry wrote: > > No? It should all just work. The page may get split / fragmented by > > the driver or page_pool_alloc_netmem() which you're adding in this > > series. A fragmented net_iov will have an elevated refcount in exactly > > the same way as if the driver was stashing one ref to release later. > > Ah, I had not considered that the driver may recycle the page by > holding onto a pp ref count, rather than a page refcount. The former > should indeed just work, although I don't have a driver that does > this, so test coverage may be a bit lacking. > > But you mentioned you like the rule above. Do you want this removed > from the docs entirely? Or clarified to something like "driver's can't > perform their own recycling by holding onto page refs, but can hold > onto page_pool refs"? We can call it out, makes sense. I'm not sure how to clearly name the page ref vs page_pool ref. But yes, driver must not attempt to hold onto struct page for recycling, as there is no struct page. I'd add to that that recycling using page pool refs is also discouraged as the circulation time for buffers is much longer than when data is copied out during recvmsg().