On Mon, Nov 04, 2024, Zack Rusin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 5:13 PM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 4:35 AM Zack Rusin <zack.rusin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > VMware products handle hypercalls in userspace. Give KVM the ability > > > to run VMware guests unmodified by fowarding all hypercalls to the > > > userspace. > > > > > > Enabling of the KVM_CAP_X86_VMWARE_HYPERCALL_ENABLE capability turns > > > the feature on - it's off by default. This allows vmx's built on top > > > of KVM to support VMware specific hypercalls. > > > > Hi Zack, > > Hi, Paolo. > > Thank you for looking at this. > > > is there a spec of the hypercalls that are supported by userspace? I > > would like to understand if there's anything that's best handled in > > the kernel. > > There's no spec but we have open headers listing the hypercalls. > There's about a 100 of them (a few were deprecated), the full > list starts here: > https://github.com/vmware/open-vm-tools/blob/739c5a2f4bfd4cdda491e6a6f6869d88c0bd6972/open-vm-tools/lib/include/backdoor_def.h#L97 > They're not well documented, but the names are pretty self-explenatory. At a quick glance, this one needs to be handled in KVM: BDOOR_CMD_VCPU_MMIO_HONORS_PAT and these probably should be in KVM: BDOOR_CMD_GETTIME BDOOR_CMD_SIDT BDOOR_CMD_SGDT BDOOR_CMD_SLDT_STR BDOOR_CMD_GETTIMEFULL BDOOR_CMD_VCPU_LEGACY_X2APIC_OK BDOOR_CMD_STEALCLOCK and these maybe? (it's not clear what they do, from the name alone) BDOOR_CMD_GET_VCPU_INFO BDOOR_CMD_VCPU_RESERVED > > If we allow forwarding _all_ hypercalls to userspace, then people will > > use it for things other than VMware and there goes all hope of > > accelerating stuff in the kernel in the future. To some extent, that ship has sailed, no? E.g. do KVM_XEN_HVM_CONFIG with KVM_XEN_HVM_CONFIG_INTERCEPT_HCALL set, and userspace can intercept pretty much all hypercalls with very few side effects. > > So even having _some_ checks in the kernel before going out to > > userspace would keep that door open, or at least try. > > Doug just looked at this and I think I might have an idea on how to > limit the scope at least a bit: if you think it would help we could > limit forwarding of hypercalls to userspace only to those that that > come with a BDOOR_MAGIC (which is 0x564D5868) in eax. Would that help? I don't think it addresses Paolo's concern (if I understood Paolo's concern correctly), but it would help from the perspective of allowing KVM to support VMware hypercalls and Xen/Hyper-V/KVM hypercalls in the same VM. I also think we should add CONFIG_KVM_VMWARE from the get-go, and if we're feeling lucky, maybe even retroactively bury KVM_CAP_X86_VMWARE_BACKDOOR behind that Kconfig. That would allow limiting the exposure to VMware specific code, e.g. if KVM does end up handling hypercalls in-kernel. And it might deter abuse to some extent.