Thanks for writing these docs! A few comments below. On Thursday, November 30th, 2023 at 21:07, André Almeida <andrealmeid@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > +KMS atomic state > +================ > + > +An atomic commit can change multiple KMS properties in an atomic fashion, > +without ever applying intermediate or partial state changes. Either the whole > +commit succeeds or fails, and it will never be applied partially. This is the > +fundamental improvement of the atomic API over the older non-atomic API which is > +referred to as the "legacy API". Applying intermediate state could unexpectedly > +fail, cause visible glitches, or delay reaching the final state. > + > +An atomic commit can be flagged with DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY, which means the It would be nice to link DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY to the actual docs here. This can be done with markup such as: :c:macro:`DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY` Same applies to other #defines. > +complete state change is validated but not applied. Userspace should use this I'd s/should/can/ here, because there are valid cases where user-space doesn't really need to test before applying. Applying a state first validates it in the kernel anwyays. > +flag to validate any state change before asking to apply it. If validation fails > +for any reason, userspace should attempt to fall back to another, perhaps > +simpler, final state. This allows userspace to probe for various configurations > +without causing visible glitches on screen and without the need to undo a > +probing change. > + > +The changes recorded in an atomic commit apply on top the current KMS state in > +the kernel. Hence, the complete new KMS state is the complete old KMS state with > +the committed property settings done on top. The kernel will try to avoid > +no-operation changes, so it is safe for userspace to send redundant property > +settings. However, not every situation allows for no-op changes, due to the > +need to acquire locks for some attributes. Userspace needs to be aware that some > +redundant information might result in oversynchronization issues. No-operation > +changes do not count towards actually needed changes, e.g. setting MODE_ID to a > +different blob with identical contents as the current KMS state shall not be a > +modeset on its own. As a special exception for VRR needs, explicitly setting > +FB_ID to its current value is not a no-op. I'm not sure talking about FB_ID is the right thing to do here. There is nothing special about FB_ID in particular. For instance, setting CRTC_ID to the same value as before has the same effect. Talking specifically about FB_ID here can be surprising for user-space: reading these docs, I'd assume setting CRTC_ID to the same value as before is a no-op, but in reality it's not. Instead, I'd suggest explaining how referencing a plane/CRTC/connector in an atomic commit adds it to the new state, even if there are no effective property value changes. > +A "modeset" is a change in KMS state that might enable, disable, or temporarily > +disrupt the emitted video signal, possibly causing visible glitches on screen. A > +modeset may also take considerably more time to complete than other kinds of > +changes, and the video sink might also need time to adapt to the new signal > +properties. Therefore a modeset must be explicitly allowed with the flag > +DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_ALLOW_MODESET. This in combination with > +DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY allows userspace to determine if a state change is > +likely to cause visible disruption on screen and avoid such changes when end > +users do not expect them. > + > +An atomic commit with the flag DRM_MODE_PAGE_FLIP_ASYNC is allowed to > +effectively change only the FB_ID property on any planes. No-operation changes > +are ignored as always. Changing any other property will cause the commit to be > +rejected. Each driver may relax this restriction if they have guarantees that > +such property change doesn't cause modesets. Userspace can use TEST_ONLY commits > +to query the driver about this. This doesn't 100% match reality at the moment, because core DRM now rejects any async commit which changes FB_ID on a non-primary plane. And there is no way for drivers to relax this currently. I'm not sure this is a good place to state such a rule. In the end, it's the same as always: the kernel will reject commits it can't perform. DRM_MODE_PAGE_FLIP_ASYNC does not need to be a special case here. Even when changing only FB_ID, the kernel might reject the commit (e.g. i915 does in some cases).