On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:19:19 +0100 Andrew Lunn <andrew@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > However, everything not PoDL PSE seems to be clause 33. So how about: > > > > > > enum ethtool_podl_pse_admin_state podl_admin_control; > > > enum ethtool_c33_pse_admin_state c33_admin_control; > > > > > > At least inside the kernel we use c22, c45, c37 etc. I'm not sure they > > > are visible to userspace, but if we don't have a better name, maybe we > > > have to use c33 in userspace as well. > > > > > > I do think naming like this makes it clear we are talking about two > > > parallel technologies, not a generic layer and then extensions for > > > podl. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > If we decide to add a prefix, "c33" is precise but less easily > > understandable, why not using simply "poe" prefix? > > I suspect poe has the exact opposite problem, its too imprecise. Its > too much of a marketing name, with no clear meaning. It could even be > some people call podl poe. > > To some extent, this is a user space UX problem. We can be precises in > the kernel and the kAPI. What ethtool decides to show to the user > could be different. Although it basically is the same problem. Alright, thanks for your answer. > Do you have ethtool patches? What does the output look like? Oleksij > did say a hybrid could be possible, so we probably want ethtool to > group these properties together and make it clear what is PoDL and > !PoDL. No I don't, I am only using ynl for now. I would be similar to podl: https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/network/ethtool/ethtool/+/e6cc6807f87c74d4e5b1f1e9d21d3a74e75a258b/netlink/pse-pd.c Duplicating the PoDL part with c33. Using the same --set-pse and --show-pse options. > > Maybe as POE were originally PMDI you prefer to use c33 which won't change > > over time? > > > > Should I also modify the content of the enum? > > ETHTOOL_PSE_ADMIN_STATE_* to ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_ADMIN_* > > ETHTOOL_PSE_PW_D_STATUS_* to ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_PW_D_STATUS_* > > Yes. That will help avoid getting PODL and C33 properties missed up. Alright. Regards, -- Köry Maincent, Bootlin Embedded Linux and kernel engineering https://bootlin.com