> 2023年7月18日 03:06,Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> 写道: > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 01:53:10AM +0800, Alan Huang wrote: >>> 2023年7月18日 00:02,Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> 写道: >>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 07:21:28PM +0800, Alan Huang wrote: >>>>> 2023年7月16日 01:19,Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> 写道: >>>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 08:50:23AM +0800, Alan Huang wrote: >>>>>>> 2023年7月15日 07:23,Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> 写道: >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 03:09:06PM +0000, Alan Huang wrote: >>>>>>>> The objects are allocated with SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, and there is >>>>>>>> n->next = first within hlist_add_head_rcu() before rcu_assign_pointer(), >>>>>>>> which modifies obj->obj_node.next. There may be readers holding the >>>>>>>> reference of obj in lockless_lookup, and when updater modifies ->next, >>>>>>>> readers can see the change immediately because ofSLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are two memory ordering required in the insertion algorithm, >>>>>>>> we need to make sure obj->key is updated before obj->obj_node.next >>>>>>>> and obj->refcnt, atomic_set_release is not enough to provide the >>>>>>>> required memory barrier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alan Huang <mmpgouride@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is an interesting one!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I am having a hard time believing that the smp_rmb() suffices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Changelog: >>>>>>>> v1 -> v2: Use _ONCE to protect obj->key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst | 21 +++++++++++++-------- >>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst b/Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst >>>>>>>> index 21e40fcc08de..2a9f5a63d334 100644 >>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst >>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst >>>>>>>> @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ objects, which is having below type. >>>>>>>> * reuse these object before the RCU grace period, we >>>>>>>> * must check key after getting the reference on object >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> - if (obj->key != key) { // not the object we expected >>>>>>>> + if (READ_ONCE(obj->key) != key) { // not the object we expected >>>>>>>> put_ref(obj); >>>>>>>> rcu_read_unlock(); >>>>>>>> goto begin; >>>>>>>> @@ -64,10 +64,10 @@ but a version with an additional memory barrier (smp_rmb()) >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>> struct hlist_node *node, *next; >>>>>>>> for (pos = rcu_dereference((head)->first); >>>>>>>> - pos && ({ next = pos->next; smp_rmb(); prefetch(next); 1; }) && >>>>>>>> + pos && ({ next = READ_ONCE(pos->next); smp_rmb(); prefetch(next); 1; }) && >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Suppose that lockless_lookup() is delayed just before fetching pos->next, >>>>>>> and that there were 17 more node to search in the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then consider the following sequence of events: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> o The updater deletes this same node and kmem_cache_free()s it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> o Another updater kmem_cache_alloc()s that same memory and >>>>>>> inserts it into an empty hash chain with a different key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> o Then lockless_lookup() fetches pos->next and sees a NULL pointer, >>>>>>> thus failing to search the remaining 17 nodes in the list, >>>>>>> one of which had the desired key value. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> o The lookup algorithm resumes and sees the NULL return from >>>>>>> lockless_lookup(), and ends up with a NULL obj. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And this happens even with the strongest possible ordering >>>>>>> everywhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, yes, it is late on Friday. So what am I missing here? >>>>>> >>>>>> You missed nothing! >>>>>> >>>>>> The lockless_lockup should not be a function, but a macro like hlist_for_each_entry_rcu. >>>>> >>>>> How would you fix this using a macro? >>>> >>>> With additional detection code. A moved object (in another chain) will have a different slot. >>>> (I have sent patch v3. ) >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Independent of that, does hlist_add_head_rcu() need to replace its >>>>>>> "n->next = first" with "WRITE_ONCE(n->next, first)"? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think users who want to use hlist with SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU should use rculist_nulls? >>>>> >>>>> I believe that you are correct. Would you like to propose a patch, or >>>>> would you rather I put something together? My current thought is to >>>> >>>> Feel free to add. >>>> >>>> One thing I think would be useful is to tell readers where the ‘next' is. >>>> The document mentions ’next’ many times, but it’s hard for me, as a reader, to realize that >>>> the ‘next' is within hlist_add_head_rcu(). (I have no idea where to put the hint.) >>>> >>>> >>>>> keep the examples, but to show why the one with smp_rmb() is broken. >>>> >>>> I think the example needs to be fixed. :) >>> >>> Even better! I will take a look, but in the meantime, would you be >>> interested in updating the wording to explain how the back-pointer works? >> >> Which document needs to be updated? >> And is there anything that I can refer to? It’s the first time I have ever heard about it. > > Documentation/RCU/rculist_nulls.rst, the one that you are updating. > > There admittedly isn't a whole lot of commentary. > >>> (Looks similar to the is_a_nulls() pointer, but in each element instead of >>> just at the end. One advantage is the ability to detect a move mid-list, >>> though that is not a big deal in well-tuned hash tables, which tend to >>> have short hash chains. The need to move elements to the front of the >>> destination list remains, though in both cases only if it has been less >>> than a grace period since the last move.) >> >> Looks like that I need to learn it first. :) > > Well, you wrote the code, so... ;-) If I understand correctly, it works only for 64-bit machines? And the number of slots of the hash table will be limited? > > Thanx, Paul > >>> Thanx, Paul >>> >>>>>> I didn’t find a case using hlist with SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, but I did find a case using list >>>>>> with SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU in drivers/gpu/drm/i915, the driver also doesn’t use _ONCE >>>>>> on the fields of the objects allocated with SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to send them a patch, though I cannot speak for their >>>>> reception of it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanx, Paul >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanx, Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ({ obj = hlist_entry(pos, typeof(*obj), obj_node); 1; }); >>>>>>>> pos = rcu_dereference(next)) >>>>>>>> - if (obj->key == key) >>>>>>>> + if (READ_ONCE(obj->key) == key) >>>>>>>> return obj; >>>>>>>> return NULL; >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> @@ -111,8 +111,13 @@ detect the fact that it missed following items in original chain. >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> obj = kmem_cache_alloc(...); >>>>>>>> lock_chain(); // typically a spin_lock() >>>>>>>> - obj->key = key; >>>>>>>> - atomic_set_release(&obj->refcnt, 1); // key before refcnt >>>>>>>> + WRITE_ONCE(obj->key, key); >>>>>>>> + /* >>>>>>>> + * We need to make sure obj->key is updated before obj->obj_node.next >>>>>>>> + * and obj->refcnt. >>>>>>>> + */ >>>>>>>> + smp_wmb(); >>>>>>>> + atomic_set(&obj->refcnt, 1); >>>>>>>> hlist_add_head_rcu(&obj->obj_node, list); >>>>>>>> unlock_chain(); // typically a spin_unlock() >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @@ -165,12 +170,12 @@ Note that using hlist_nulls means the type of 'obj_node' field of >>>>>>>> begin: >>>>>>>> rcu_read_lock(); >>>>>>>> hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu(obj, node, head, obj_node) { >>>>>>>> - if (obj->key == key) { >>>>>>>> + if (READ_ONCE(obj->key) == key) { >>>>>>>> if (!try_get_ref(obj)) { // might fail for free objects >>>>>>>> rcu_read_unlock(); >>>>>>>> goto begin; >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> - if (obj->key != key) { // not the object we expected >>>>>>>> + if (READ_ONCE(obj->key) != key) { // not the object we expected >>>>>>>> put_ref(obj); >>>>>>>> rcu_read_unlock(); >>>>>>>> goto begin; >>>>>>>> @@ -206,7 +211,7 @@ hlist_add_head_rcu(). >>>>>>>> */ >>>>>>>> obj = kmem_cache_alloc(cachep); >>>>>>>> lock_chain(); // typically a spin_lock() >>>>>>>> - obj->key = key; >>>>>>>> + WRITE_ONCE(obj->key, key); >>>>>>>> atomic_set_release(&obj->refcnt, 1); // key before refcnt >>>>>>>> /* >>>>>>>> * insert obj in RCU way (readers might be traversing chain) >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> 2.34.1