On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:30:30AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 10.07.23 21:51, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 07:10:10PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> This is a RFC and a bit rough for now. I only set down to create the > >> first of the three patches. But while doing so I noticed a few things > >> that seemed odd for me with my background on writing and editing texts. > >> So I just quickly performed a few additional changes to fix those to see > >> if the stable team would appreciate them, as this document is clearly > >> their domain. > >> > >> If those changes or even the initial patch are not welcomed, I'll simply > >> drop them. I'd totally understand this, as texts like these are delicate > >> and it's easy to accidentlly change the intent or the meaning while > >> adjusting things in good faith. > >> > >> At the same time I might be willing to do a few more changes, if people > >> like the direction this takes and want a bit more fine tuning. > > > > I do like it, many thanks for taking the time to do this work, it's much > > appreciated. > > > > If you resend the first 2 as a non-RFC patch, > > BTW: thx again for your uplifting feedback! And in case anyone missed > it, I send those two patches out yesterday here: > https://lore.kernel.org/all/cover.1689056247.git.linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > > > the last one needs some more work as mentioned. > > I have that one in a separate branch now and spitted into four patches; > the first three basically move text around, which results in a much > cleaner diff for the last patch that contains actual content changes. > While working on the latter I noticed one more thing: > > ``` > .. warning:: > The -stable-rc tree is a snapshot in time of the stable-queue > tree and > will change frequently, hence will be rebased often. It should > only be > used for testing purposes (e.g. to be consumed by CI systems). > ``` > > That sounded a bit odd to me, as it will scare people away that want to > test stable -rc's using git; They are only there for people who _DO_ want to test stable -rc's using git. > and I think it doesn't match current practices. No, it's pretty correct, what does not match? It gets rebased all the time. > I'll thus likely > change the text to something like this, > unless I'm missing something or someone has a better idea: > ``` > .. warning:: > The branches in the -stable-rc tree are rebased each time a new -rc > is released, as they are created by taking the latest release and > applying the patches from the stable-queue on top. Yes, that is true, but they are also rebased sometimes in intermediate places, before a -rc is released, just to give CI systems a chance to test easier. These are ONLY for CI systems to use, nothing else should be touching them. So I think the current text is correct, what am I missing? thanks, greg k-h