On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 17:32:15 +0800 Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 17/03/2023 21:37, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:51:43 +0800 > > Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Document the overview and usage of HiSilicon PMCU. > >> > >> HiSilicon Performance Monitor Control Unit (PMCU) is a device that offloads > >> PMU accesses from CPUs, handling the configuration, event switching, and > >> counter reading of core PMUs on Kunpeng SoC. It facilitates fine-grained > >> and multi-PMU-event CPU profiling, in which scenario the current 'perf' > >> scheme may lose events or drop sampling frequency. With PMCU, users can > >> reliably obtain the data of up to 240 PMU events with the sample interval > >> of events down to 1ms, while the software overhead of accessing PMUs, as > >> well as its impact on target workloads, is reduced. > >> > >> Signed-off-by: Jie Zhan <zhanjie9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Nice documentation. I've read this a few times before, but on this read > > through wondered if we could say anything about the skew between capture > > of the counters. Not that important though so I'm happy to add > > > > Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > though this may of course need updating significantly as the interface > > is refined (the RFC question you raised for example in the cover letter). > > > > Thanks > > > > Jonathan > > > >> --- > >> Documentation/admin-guide/perf/hisi-pmcu.rst | 183 +++++++++++++++++++ > >> Documentation/admin-guide/perf/index.rst | 1 + > >> 2 files changed, 184 insertions(+) > >> create mode 100644 Documentation/admin-guide/perf/hisi-pmcu.rst > >> > >> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/perf/hisi-pmcu.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/perf/hisi-pmcu.rst > >> new file mode 100644 > >> index 000000000000..50d17cbd0049 > >> --- /dev/null > >> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/perf/hisi-pmcu.rst > >> @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ > >> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 > >> + > >> +========================================== > >> +HiSilicon Performance Monitor Control Unit > >> +========================================== > >> + > >> +Introduction > >> +============ > >> + > >> +HiSilicon Performance Monitor Control Unit (PMCU) is a device that offloads > >> +PMU accesses from CPUs, handling the configuration, event switching, and > >> +counter reading of core PMUs on Kunpeng SoC. It facilitates fine-grained > >> +and multi-PMU-event CPU profiling, in which scenario the current ``perf`` > >> +scheme may lose events or drop sampling frequency. With PMCU, users can > >> +reliably obtain the data of up to 240 PMU events with the sample interval > >> +of events down to 1ms, while the software overhead of accessing PMUs, as > >> +well as its impact on target workloads, is reduced. > >> + > >> +Each CPU die is equipped with a PMCU device. The PMCU driver registers it as a > >> +PMU device, named as ``hisi_pmcu_sccl<N>``, where ``<N>`` is the corresponding > >> +CPU die ID. When triggered, PMCU reads event IDs and pass them to PMUs in all > >> +CPUs on the CPU die it is on. PMCU then starts the counters for counting > >> +events, waits for a time interval, and stops them. The PMU counter readings are > >> +dumped from hardware to memory, i.e. perf AUX buffers, and further copied to > >> +the ``perf.data`` file in the user space. PMCU automatically switches events > >> +(when there are more events than available PMU counters) and completes multiple > >> +rounds of PMU event counting in one trigger. > >> + > >> +Hardware overview > >> +================= > >> + > >> +On Kunpeng SoC, each CPU die is equipped with a PMCU device. PMCU acts like an > >> +assistant to access the core PMUs on its die and move the counter readings to > >> +memory. An overview of PMCU's hardware organization is shown below:: > >> + > >> + +--------------------+ > >> + | Memory | > >> + | +------+ +-------+ | > >> + +--------+ | |Events| |Samples| | > >> + | PMCU | | +------+ +-------+ | > >> + +---|----+ +---------|----------+ > >> + | | > >> + ======================================================= Bus > >> + | | | > >> + +----------|----------+ +----------|----------+ | > >> + | +------+ | +------+ | | +------+ | +------+ | | > >> + | |Core 0| | |Core 1| | | |Core 0| | |Core 1| | | > >> + | +--|---+ | +--|---+ | | +--|---+ | +--|---+ | (More > >> + | +-----+----+ | | +-----+----+ | clusters > >> + | +--|---+ +--|---+ | | +--|---+ +--|---+ | ...) > >> + | |Core 2| |Core 3| | | |Core 2| |Core 3| | > >> + | +------+ +------+ | | +------+ +------+ | > >> + | CPU Cluster 0 | | CPU Cluster 1 | > >> + +---------------------+ +---------------------+ > >> + > >> +On Kunpeng SoC, a CPU die is formed of several CPU clusters and several > >> +CPUs per cluster. PMCU is able to access the core PMUs in these CPUs. > >> +The main job of PMCU is to fetch PMU event IDs from memory, make PMUs count the > >> +events for a while, and move the counter readings back to memory. > >> + > >> +Once triggered, PMCU performs a number of loops and processes a number of > >> +events in each loop. It fetches ``nr_pmu`` events from memory at a time, where > >> +``nr_pmu`` denotes the number of PMU counters to be used in each CPU. The > >> +``nr_pmu`` events are passed to the PMU counters of all CPUs on the CPU die > >> +where PMCU resides. Then, PMCU starts all the counters, waits for a period, > >> +stops all the counters, and moves the counter readings to memory, before > >> +handling the next ``nr_pmu`` events if there are more events to process in this > >> +loop. The number of loops and ``nr_pmu`` are determined by the driver, whereas > >> +the number of events to process depends on user inputs. The counters are > >> +stopped when PMCU reads counters and switches events, so there is a tiny time > >> +window during which the events are not counted. > > I'm not clear from this description whether there is 'skew' between the counters > > (beyond the normal issues from uarch). Does the PMCU stop all counters > > then read them all (minimizing skew) or does it stop each CPUs set of counters > > and read those, or stop each individual counter before reading? > > > > My impression is that this feature is meant to be left running over timescales > > much longer than the sampling period so it may not be necessary to align the > > different lines on the resulting graphs perfectly. Hence maybe this doesn't matter. > > > Thanks for pointing this out. > > The PMCU stops all the counters before reading any counters (i.e. the > first case you said). > > The basic procedure is: > start counters -> wait -> stop counters -> read and reset counters > -> switch events -> start counters -> ... > where each step applys to all CPUs and counters. Great. So this is across all cores on a die so skew should be minimized (at a cost of missing more events than a skew heavy approach). > > The counters don't count during the tiny stop-start window. > I guess a small improvement would be: reset -> read -> switch -> reset > -> ..., while the counters keep running, > but we still lose some event counts between read and reset, and thus, no > fundamental differrence. Lots of ways to reduce both skew and missed counts, but I think you are right in that none of them matter for the intended long term monitoring usecase. Jonathan > > Regards, > Jie