> On Mar 13, 2023, at 2:51 AM, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:24:34PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 09:55:02AM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 10:10:56PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote: >>>> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 01:57:42PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: >>>> [..] >>>>>>>>>> See this commit: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3705b88db0d7cc ("rcu: Add a module parameter to force use of >>>>>>>>>> expedited RCU primitives") >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Antti provided this commit precisely in order to allow Android >>>>>>>>>> devices to expedite the boot process and to shut off the >>>>>>>>>> expediting at a time of Android userspace's choosing. So Android >>>>>>>>>> has been making this work for about ten years, which strikes me >>>>>>>>>> as an adequate proof of concept. ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pointer. That's true. Looking at Android sources, I >>>>>>>>> find that Android Mediatek devices at least are setting >>>>>>>>> rcu_expedited to 1 at late stage of their userspace boot (which is >>>>>>>>> weird, it should be set to 1 as early as possible), and >>>>>>>>> interestingly I cannot find them resetting it back to 0!. Maybe >>>>>>>>> they set rcu_normal to 1? But I cannot find that either. Vlad? :P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting. Though this is consistent with Antti's commit log, >>>>>>>> where he talks about expediting grace periods but not unexpediting >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you think we need to unexpedite it? :)))) >>>>>> >>>>>> Android runs on smallish systems, so quite possibly not! >>>>>> >>>>> We keep it enabled and never unexpedite it. The reason is a performance. I >>>>> have done some app-launch time analysis with enabling and disabling of it. >>>>> >>>>> An expedited case is much better when it comes to app launch time. It >>>>> requires ~25% less time to run an app comparing with unexpedited variant. >>>>> So we have a big gain here. >>>> >>>> Wow, that's huge. I wonder if you can dig deeper and find out why that is so >>>> as the callbacks may need to be synchronize_rcu_expedited() then, as it could >>>> be slowing down other usecases! I find it hard to believe, real-time >>>> workloads will run better without those callbacks being always-expedited if >>>> it actually gives back 25% in performance! >>>> >>> I can dig further, but on a high level i think there are some spots >>> which show better performance if expedited is set. I mean synchronize_rcu() >>> becomes as "less blocking a context" from a time point of view. >>> >>> The problem of a regular synchronize_rcu() is - it can trigger a big latency >>> delays for a caller. For example for nocb case we do not know where in a list >>> our callback is located and when it is invoked to unblock a caller. >> >> True, expedited RCU grace periods do not have this callback-invocation >> delay that normal RCU does. >> >>> I have already mentioned somewhere. Probably it makes sense to directly wake-up >>> callers from the GP kthread instead and not via nocb-kthread that invokes our callbacks >>> one by one. >> >> Makes sense, but it is necessary to be careful. Wakeups are not fast, >> so making the RCU grace-period kthread do them all sequentially is not >> a strategy to win. For example, note that the next expedited grace >> period can start before the previous expedited grace period has finished >> its wakeups. >> > I hove done a small and quick prototype: > > <snip> > diff --git a/include/linux/rcupdate_wait.h b/include/linux/rcupdate_wait.h > index 699b938358bf..e1a4cca9a208 100644 > --- a/include/linux/rcupdate_wait.h > +++ b/include/linux/rcupdate_wait.h > @@ -9,6 +9,8 @@ > #include <linux/rcupdate.h> > #include <linux/completion.h> > > +extern struct llist_head gp_wait_llist; > + > /* > * Structure allowing asynchronous waiting on RCU. > */ > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > index ee27a03d7576..50b81ca54104 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ int rcu_num_lvls __read_mostly = RCU_NUM_LVLS; > int num_rcu_lvl[] = NUM_RCU_LVL_INIT; > int rcu_num_nodes __read_mostly = NUM_RCU_NODES; /* Total # rcu_nodes in use. */ > > +/* Waiters for a GP kthread. */ > +LLIST_HEAD(gp_wait_llist); > + > /* > * The rcu_scheduler_active variable is initialized to the value > * RCU_SCHEDULER_INACTIVE and transitions RCU_SCHEDULER_INIT just before the > @@ -1776,6 +1779,14 @@ static noinline void rcu_gp_cleanup(void) > on_each_cpu(rcu_strict_gp_boundary, NULL, 0); > } > > +static void rcu_notify_gp_end(struct llist_node *llist) > +{ > + struct llist_node *rcu, *next; > + > + llist_for_each_safe(rcu, next, llist) > + complete(&((struct rcu_synchronize *) rcu)->completion); This looks broken to me, so the synchronize will complete even if it was called in the middle of an ongoing GP? Thanks, - Joel > +} > + > /* > * Body of kthread that handles grace periods. > */ > @@ -1811,6 +1822,9 @@ static int __noreturn rcu_gp_kthread(void *unused) > WRITE_ONCE(rcu_state.gp_state, RCU_GP_CLEANUP); > rcu_gp_cleanup(); > WRITE_ONCE(rcu_state.gp_state, RCU_GP_CLEANED); > + > + /* Wake-app all users. */ > + rcu_notify_gp_end(llist_del_all(&gp_wait_llist)); > } > } > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/update.c b/kernel/rcu/update.c > index 19bf6fa3ee6a..1de7c328a3e5 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/update.c > +++ b/kernel/rcu/update.c > @@ -426,7 +426,10 @@ void __wait_rcu_gp(bool checktiny, int n, call_rcu_func_t *crcu_array, > if (j == i) { > init_rcu_head_on_stack(&rs_array[i].head); > init_completion(&rs_array[i].completion); > - (crcu_array[i])(&rs_array[i].head, wakeme_after_rcu); > + > + /* Kick a grace period if needed. */ > + (void) start_poll_synchronize_rcu(); > + llist_add((struct llist_node *) &rs_array[i].head, &gp_wait_llist); > } > } > <snip> > > and did some experiments in terms of performance and comparison. A test case is: > > thread_X: > synchronize_rcu(); > kfree(ptr); > > below are results with running 10 parallel workers running 1000 times of mentioned > test scenario: > > # default(NOCB) > [ 29.322944] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 17286604 usec > [ 29.325759] All test took worker0=63964052068 cycles > [ 29.327255] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 23414575 usec > [ 29.329974] All test took worker1=86638822563 cycles > [ 29.331460] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 23357988 usec > [ 29.334205] All test took worker2=86429439193 cycles > [ 29.350808] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 17174001 usec > [ 29.353553] All test took worker3=63547397954 cycles > [ 29.355039] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 17141904 usec > [ 29.357770] All test took worker4=63428630877 cycles > [ 29.374831] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 23397952 usec > [ 29.377577] All test took worker5=86577316353 cycles > [ 29.398809] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 17142038 usec > [ 29.401549] All test took worker6=63429124938 cycles > [ 29.414828] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 17158248 usec > [ 29.417574] All test took worker7=63489107118 cycles > [ 29.438811] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 18102109 usec > [ 29.441550] All test took worker8=66981588881 cycles > [ 29.462826] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 23446042 usec > [ 29.465561] All test took worker9=86755258455 cycles > > # patch(NOCB) > [ 14.720986] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837883 usec > [ 14.723753] All test took worker0=32702015768 cycles > [ 14.740386] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837750 usec > [ 14.743076] All test took worker1=32701525814 cycles > [ 14.760350] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837734 usec > [ 14.763036] All test took worker2=32701466281 cycles > [ 14.780369] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837707 usec > [ 14.783057] All test took worker3=32701364901 cycles > [ 14.800352] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837730 usec > [ 14.803041] All test took worker4=32701449927 cycles > [ 14.820355] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837724 usec > [ 14.823048] All test took worker5=32701428134 cycles > [ 14.840359] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837705 usec > [ 14.843052] All test took worker6=32701356465 cycles > [ 14.860322] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837742 usec > [ 14.863005] All test took worker7=32701494475 cycles > [ 14.880363] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837750 usec > [ 14.883081] All test took worker8=32701525074 cycles > [ 14.900362] Summary: kvfree_rcu_1_arg_vmalloc_test loops: 1000 avg: 8837918 usec > [ 14.903065] All test took worker9=32702145379 cycles > > -- > Uladzislau Rezki