On 02.02.22 11:05, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 02.02.22 00:13, Jonathan Corbet wrote: >> OK, I'll try not to take so long to have a look at it this time. >> >> Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >>> Create two documents explaining various aspects around regression >>> handling and tracking; one is aimed at users, the other targets >>> developers. >>> >>> The texts among others describe the first rule of Linux kernel >>> development and what it means in practice. They also explain what a >>> regression actually is and how to report one properly. >>> >>> Both texts additionally provide a brief introduction to the bot the >>> kernel's regression tracker uses to facilitate the work, but mention the >>> use is optional. >>> >>> To sum things up, provide a few quotes from Linus in the document for >>> developers to show how serious he takes regressions. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> --- >>> Documentation/admin-guide/index.rst | 1 + >>> .../admin-guide/regressions-users.rst | 436 ++++++++++++ >>> Documentation/process/index.rst | 1 + >>> Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst | 672 ++++++++++++++++++ >> >> I'll start with some *serious* bikesheddery...it's best if the names of >> the files tell readers what's inside. This isn't something I feel >> really strongly about, but we could consider > > I wasn't totally happy with the file names myself, so it's good that you > bring it up. > >> admin-guide/reporting-regressions.txt (or just regressions.txt) >> process/regression-policy.txt > > I like "reporting-regressions.txt", but I wonder if using the word > "policy" is a good idea. I tried to avoid it (and similar words, like > guidelines), as they might do more harm then good. So how about: > > admin-guide/reporting-regressions.rst > process/regressions.rst BTW, I settled on these: admin-guide/reporting-regressions.rst process/handling-regressions.rst >> [...] >>> +Send a mail to the regressions mailing list (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) while >>> +CCing the Linux kernel's regression tracker (regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxx); if the >>> +issue might better be dealt with in private, feel free to omit the list. >> >> Perhaps a separate concern, but might you want to set up an @kernel.org >> alias for the regression tracker? Trust me, you're not gonna want to >> run it forever, and the ability to quickly redirect the mail may prove >> to be a nice thing to have. An email address with your domain sitting >> in the docs will circulate for years after it gets changed. > > Yeah, it's on my mental to do list for a few weeks already, but never > set down to actually get this rolling. You are right, I'll ask for an alias. I liked the idea and requested this, but Konstantin raised a good point: "we don't have generic aliases for all other subsystems, but the situation where someone may want to discuss something off-list arises for all of them". I have to agree with him. I first wanted to change the text to something like "look up the address in MAINTAINERS", but that just shifts the problem. Additionally: We have lot's of other private addresses from maintainers in the docs as well and don't consider that to be a problem. And if somebody else takes over I can also redirect that email or create a autoreply on my local server. So I'd say we just leave things as they are, it's not perfect, but good enough I'd say. Ciao, Thorsten