On 2/4/22 6:50 PM, David Gow wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:18 AM Frank Rowand <frowand.list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 2/4/22 5:13 PM, David Gow wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 4:32 AM <frowand.list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@xxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> Clarify some confusing phrasing. >>> >>> Thanks for this! A few comments below: >>> >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@xxxxxxxx> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> One item that may result in bikeshedding is that I added the spec >>>> version to the title line. >>> >>> This is fine by me. >>> >>>> >>>> Documentation/dev-tools/ktap.rst | 12 ++++++------ >>>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/dev-tools/ktap.rst b/Documentation/dev-tools/ktap.rst >>>> index 878530cb9c27..3b7a26816930 100644 >>>> --- a/Documentation/dev-tools/ktap.rst >>>> +++ b/Documentation/dev-tools/ktap.rst >>>> @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@ >>>> .. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 >>>> >>>> -======================================== >>>> -The Kernel Test Anything Protocol (KTAP) >>>> -======================================== >>>> +=================================================== >>>> +The Kernel Test Anything Protocol (KTAP), version 1 >>>> +=================================================== >>>> >>>> TAP, or the Test Anything Protocol is a format for specifying test results used >>>> by a number of projects. It's website and specification are found at this `link >>>> @@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ starting with another KTAP version line and test plan, and end with the overall >>>> result. If one of the subtests fail, for example, the parent test should also >>>> fail. >>>> >>>> -Additionally, all result lines in a subtest should be indented. One level of >>>> +Additionally, all lines in a subtest should be indented. One level of >>> >>> The original reason for this is to accommodate "unknown" lines which >>> were not generated by the test itself (e.g, a KASAN report or BUG or >>> something). These are awkward, as sometimes they're a useful thing to >>> have as part of the test result, and sometimes they're unrelated spam. >>> (Additionally, I think kselftest will indent these, as it indents the >>> full results in a separate pass afterwards, but KUnit won't, as the >>> level of nesting is done during printing.) >>> >>> Personally, I'd rather leave this as is, or perhaps call out "unknown" >>> lines explicitly, e.g: >>> Additionally, all lines in a subtest (except for 'unknown' lines) >>> should be indented... >> >> Only listing result lines as being indented is not consistent with >> the "Example KTAP output" section. The example shows: >> >> Version line - indented >> Plan line - indented >> Test case result lines - indented >> Diagnostic lines - indented >> Unknown lines - not shown in the example >> >> So there seem to be at least 4 types of lines that are indented for a >> nested test. > > Agreed. > >> >> The TAP standard (I'll use version 14 for my examples) does not allow >> unknown lines (TAP 14 calls them "Anything else"). It says "is >> incorrect", and "When the `pragma +strict` is enabled, incorrect test >> lines SHOULD result in the test set being a failure, ...". TAP 14 >> calls for the opposite behavior if `pragma -strict` is set. > > Are you reading the same version 14 spec as me? > > https://github.com/TestAnything/Specification/blob/tap-14-specification/specification.md Thanks for the link. I wasn't even aware of that repo. A hint for anyone else that wants to look at the spec in that repo, it is in a branch (tap-14-specfication). I was using https://github.com/isaacs/testanything.github.io.git which has slightly more recent activity (Sept 6, 2015 vs Jan 19, 2015). -Frank > > I can find these lines in the version 13 spec, but not TAP14, which > doesn't mention "Anything else" lines at all... > > Not that it matters... I'll just follow along with version 13. > >> >> TAP 14 goes on to say "`Test::Harness` silently ignores incorrect lines, >> but will become more stringent in the futures. >> >> It seems to me that KTAP "Unknown lines" are fundamentally different >> than TAP 14 "Anything else" lines. Tests that generate KTAP output >> may print their results to the system console (or log), in which >> case kernel messages (or for the system log the messages may even >> come from non-kernel sources) either directly triggered by a test or >> from a task that is totally unrelated to the test may exist in the KTAP >> data stream. So I would agree that "Unknown lines" are not indented. >> Even if the "Unknown line" is directly triggered by the test. > > I do think that KTAP "unknown lines" and TAP "anything else" lines > cover similar ground, the big difference being that in KTAP they're > explicitly permitted, rather than "incorrect". I guess how similar > they are is as much a matter of perspective as anything... > > I'd agree that "unknown lines" don't _need_ to be indented, but I > wouldn't call it an error to indent them if that's something a test > harness does. > >> >> But I think the KTAP specification should say that "Diagnostic lines" >> are emitted by the test (or the test harness), and thus must be >> indented when related to a nested test. >> >> And as you suggest, "Unknown lines" should be explicitly called out >> as not being part of "lines in a subtest", thus do not need to be >> indented. >> >> Does that sound good? >> > > Agreed on both counts. Sounds great, thanks! > > Cheers, > -- David > >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>>> indentation is two spaces: " ". The indentation should begin at the version >>>> line and should end before the parent test's result line. >>>> >>>> @@ -225,8 +225,8 @@ Major differences between TAP and KTAP >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Note the major differences between the TAP and KTAP specification: >>>> -- yaml and json are not recommended in diagnostic messages >>>> -- TODO directive not recognized >>>> +- yaml and json are not recommended in KTAP diagnostic messages >>>> +- TODO directive not recognized in KTAP >>>> - KTAP allows for an arbitrary number of tests to be nested >>>> >>> >>> Looks good here, cheers. >>> >>> >>>> The TAP14 specification does permit nested tests, but instead of using another >>>> -- >>>> Frank Rowand <frank.rowand@xxxxxxxx> >>>> >>