Em Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:09:19 +0900 Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > Hi Maruo, > (+Cc: Jon, linux-doc) > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 04:37:07 +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:00:08 +0900 > > Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > [...] > >> Longer term (for CentOS stream9 or RHEL 9), we might need to ask > >> EPEL maintainers to add texlive-ctex. > > > > Longer term, the script is actually fixing a broken dependency issue > > on distros. So, bugzillas for Fedora/Debian & derivated ones should be > > opened for "texlive-xecjk" package to also select "texlive-ctex" > > (or whatever other name those packages have on distros). > > FWIW, I asked Karl Berry, who is the chief maintainer of upstream > TeX Live, to add a dependency on ctex to xecjk [1]. Thanks for forwarding this question to him and to address it on distros! > > [1]: https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2022-January/047648.html > > Karl has added the dependency to xecjk as of rev 61529 [2]. > > [2]: https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2022-January/047654.html > > On up-to-date vanilla TeX Live 2021 (>= rev61529): > > $ tlmgr info --data depends xecjk > ctex > > With xecjk < rev61529 > > $ tlmgr info --data depends xecjk > (no output) Nice! Yeah, this is the long term solution, but still won't prevent people/distros based on older packages to keep using packages without such requirements. > This dependency is expected to be reflected in the TeX Live > packaging for next Fedora release. Yeah, Fedora is usually keen to changes. > OTOH, as I mentioned earlier, > EPEL 9 (for CentOS stream9) doesn't have texlive-ctex at the > moment, so we need to see what happens there when RHEL 9 is ready. Yes. RHEL/EPEL is usually a lot more conservative. > Note: the xecjk -> ctex dependency is already taken care of > by openSUSE's TeX Live packages. On both Tumbleweed and on Leap? > As for Ubuntu/Debian, it looks like TeX Live/Debian packaging > maintainer, Norbert Preining, has no intention of adding > dependency of texlive-xetex -> texlive-lang-chinese as can be > seen in his responses to a Debian Bug report [3]. > I think this is a reasonable choice as most xetex users don't > use xecjk and texlive-lang-chinese is large in size. > > [3]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=961703 Debian package maintainer could reconsider it after the upstream dependency addition, but probably only for SID and yet-to-be-released versions. Debian is very conservative on their releases. Even if SID gains such dependency fix, I would be surprised if they end porting a dependency change like that to Bullseye (which should be the latest version for ~1.5 years - with LTS extending it for ~3.5 years). It sounds worth mentioning about the texlive dependency decision at the Debian bug. > Thanks, Akira > > > > > Worth mentioning that the script dependency-checking is should be smart > > enough to not break once texlive distro maintainers fix such issues. > > > > Thanks, > > Mauro > >
