Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] memory-hotplug.rst: document the "auto-movable" online policy

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On 06.10.21 02:35, Mike Rapoport wrote:
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 04:41:17PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
In commit e83a437faa62 ("mm/memory_hotplug: introduce "auto-movable" online
policy") we introduced a new memory online policy to automatically
select a zone for memory blocks to be onlined. We added a way to
set the active online policy and tunables for the auto-movable online
policy. In follow-up commits we tweaked the "auto-movable" policy to also
consider memory device details when selecting zones for memory blocks to
be onlined.

Let's document the new toggles and how the two online policies we have
work.

Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
---
  .../admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst         | 128 +++++++++++++++---
  1 file changed, 108 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
index ee00b70dedde..c20a2c0031cf 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
@@ -165,9 +165,8 @@ Or alternatively::
% echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/memory/memoryXXX/online -The kernel will select the target zone automatically, usually defaulting to
-``ZONE_NORMAL`` unless ``movable_node`` has been specified on the kernel
-command line or if the memory block would intersect the ZONE_MOVABLE already.
+The kernel will select the target zone automatically, depending on the
+configured ``online_policy``.
One can explicitly request to associate an offline memory block with
  ZONE_MOVABLE by::
@@ -198,6 +197,9 @@ Auto-onlining can be enabled by writing ``online``, ``online_kernel`` or
% echo online > /sys/devices/system/memory/auto_online_blocks +Similarly to manual onlining, with ``online`` the kernel will select the
+target zone automatically, depending on the configured ``online_policy``.
+
  Modifying the auto-online behavior will only affect all subsequently added
  memory blocks only.
@@ -393,9 +395,11 @@ command line parameters are relevant:
  ======================== =======================================================
  ``memhp_default_state``	 configure auto-onlining by essentially setting
                           ``/sys/devices/system/memory/auto_online_blocks``.
-``movable_node``	 configure automatic zone selection in the kernel. When
-			 set, the kernel will default to ZONE_MOVABLE, unless
-			 other zones can be kept contiguous.
+``movable_node``	 configure automatic zone selection in the kernel when
+			 using the ``contig-zones`` online policy. When
+			 set, the kernel will default to ZONE_MOVABLE when
+			 onlining a memory block, unless other zones can be kept
+			 contiguous.

The movable_node main purpose is to allow unplugging an entire node. Zone
selection is a consequence of this. You may want to cite the description of
movable_node in kernel-paramenters.txt here.

Right, I only document the effects of these parameters on memory hot(un)plug.

What about:

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
index c20a2c0031cf..f8976ded0863 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst
@@ -402,6 +402,9 @@ command line parameters are relevant:
                         contiguous.
======================== =======================================================

+See Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt for a more generic
+description of these command line parameters.
+
 Module Parameters
 ------------------



And, pardon my ignorance, how movable_node will play with auto-movable
policy?

It's essentially ignored with the auto-movable policy for memory hotplugged after boot (!MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG). That's why only the description of "contig-zones" below describes how it interacts with the ``movable_node``, and we make it clear here that it's restricted to the "contig-zones" policy as well.

<details>
Bare metal, where we care about reliably unplugging hotplugged memory usually configures auto-onlining to "online_movable": for example, that's the case on RHEL. auto-movable doesn't make too much sense for bare metal: the nature of "movable_node" is to essentially online anything that might get hotunplugged MOVABLE, especially after hotplugging memory and rebooting: that is highly dangerous especially in virtualized environments.

"auto-movable" is valuable in virtualized environments, where we add memory via:
* add_memory_driver_managed() like virtio-mem, whereby such memory is
  never part of the firmware provided memory-map, so the policy is
  always in control even after a reboot.
* Hotplugged virtual DIMMs, such as provided by x86-64/arm64, whereby we
  don't include these DIMMs in the firmware-provided memory map, but
  ACPI code adds them after early boot, making it behave similar to
  add_memory_driver_managed() -- the policy is always in control even
  after a reboot.
</details>


Thanks!

--
Thanks,

David / dhildenb




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