On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 09:41:36PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jul 2023, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote: > > > The MM subsystem is trying to shrink struct page. This patchset > > introduces a memory descriptor for page table tracking - struct ptdesc. > > > > This patchset introduces ptdesc, splits ptdesc from struct page, and > > converts many callers of page table constructor/destructors to use ptdescs. > > > > Ptdesc is a foundation to further standardize page tables, and eventually > > allow for dynamic allocation of page tables independent of struct page. > > However, the use of pages for page table tracking is quite deeply > > ingrained and varied across archictectures, so there is still a lot of > > work to be done before that can happen. > > Others may differ, but it remains the case that I see no point to this > patchset, until the minimal descriptor that replaces struct page is > working, and struct page then becomes just overhead. Until that time, > let architectures continue to use struct page as they do - whyever not? Because it's easier for architecture maintainers to understand what they should and shouldn't be using. Look at the definition: +struct ptdesc { + unsigned long __page_flags; + + union { + struct rcu_head pt_rcu_head; + struct list_head pt_list; + struct { + unsigned long _pt_pad_1; + pgtable_t pmd_huge_pte; + }; + }; + unsigned long __page_mapping; + + union { + struct mm_struct *pt_mm; + atomic_t pt_frag_refcount; + }; + + union { + unsigned long _pt_pad_2; +#if ALLOC_SPLIT_PTLOCKS + spinlock_t *ptl; +#else + spinlock_t ptl; +#endif + }; + unsigned int __page_type; + atomic_t _refcount; +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG + unsigned long pt_memcg_data; +#endif +}; It's still a 31-line struct definition, I'll grant you. But it's far easier to comprehend than the definition of struct page (~140 lines). An architecture maintainer can look at it and see what might be available, and what is already used. And hopefully we'll have less "Oh, I'll just use page->private". It's really not fair to expect arch maintainers to learn so much about the mm. It's still messier than I would like, but I don't think we can do better for now. I don't understand why you're so interested in delaying doing this work.