Hello Michael, > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Walle <michael@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:56 PM > To: ZHIZHIKIN Andrey <andrey.zhizhikin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: horia.geanta@xxxxxxx; pankaj.gupta@xxxxxxx; > herbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; > iuliana.prodan@xxxxxxx; linux-crypto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux- > kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: caam - check jr permissions before probing > > Hi Andrey, > > Am 2021-11-10 10:33, schrieb ZHIZHIKIN Andrey: > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Michael Walle <michael@xxxxxxxx> > >> >> First, thank you for taking the extra step here. Does "reserved > >> >> for HAB" > >> >> mean TF-A is using it or is the BootROM already using it. TF-A is > >> >> optional (so is HAB I guess?). So it might be possible to have jr0 > >> >> in linux, right? If that is correct, the solution to disable the > >> >> jr0 at compile time is wrong. > >> > > >> > From what I've seen in the U-Boot and ATF code, it seems that the > >> > JR0 is reserved by BootROM. When the execution reaches the ATF > >> > (after SPL) those bits are already set which concludes that the > >> > reservation is done quite early. Since current U-Boot does not have > >> > any support for CAAM integrated yet (patchset is under > >> > review) - > >> > it makes me believe that the reservation is done in BootROM. > >> > >> Ok. I guess we have to wait for an answer from NXP. But it strikes as > >> odd that it there is no Secure World, you'll loose one job ring. > > > > From HW perspective, the JR is not lost - it is just assigned to S > > world. > > I said its lost if there is no Secure World (which IMHO is still a valid case). I mean if > its already the BootROM which assign it > (unconditionally) > and there will be no secure world later in the boot process, then its lost. Agree, in this case it can be considered as a total loss of JR for NS World. > > > This also provides an opportunity (at least for i.MX8M series) to > > issue transactions and create Trusted descriptors in S world for NS world. > > This is achieved by 2 sets of ICID/DID pairs, and this is where > > USE_OUT bit is actually used. This however is missing on the LS series > > (SRM does not state this is implemented), which leaves LS with only > > one ICID/DID pair per ring. > > But this would also be possible if the JR is only acquired later by TF-A (or optee), > no? If I read the SRM correct, then the answer is rather no. There is a clear separation that is done between 2 worlds, and they use the JR independently. The i.MX8M series however adds support to issue transactions from S world on behalf of both S and NS worlds by utilizing the second pair of ICID/DID, which LS family does not have. > > > From OS perspective however, I would totally agree - the JR is indeed > > lost, even if there is no software running that required S world. > > > > The only description of process for control transfer from S to NS > > world I was able to find is described in LS1028A SRM section 12.2.2.3, > > which only details ring user re-assignment, but it does not detail > > whether TZ_OWN can participate in this process (set or reset), and > > this is also similar for i.MX8M family. > > > >> > >> > It is correct though: if the JR is not reserved - then it is > >> > accessible in Linux, hence compile-time disabling does not looked > >> > like a good solution to me. > >> > >> Mh, I had a closer look at the IMX8M SRM (I don't have one for the > >> IMX8MM yet). It looks like secure world can reassign the Job Ring to > >> non-secure world though (unless LDID is set). If that is the case I > >> think, deciding at probe time if a job ring is available is not > >> correct; as it can be reassigned later. > > > > That's exactly the culprit here: the LDID is not set on the JR > > reserved. > > > > This makes it possible for the code executing in S to transfer the JR > > to NS. > > Practically, I do not see that this would happen though, as even the > > NXP proposed to disable the node at compile time, which gives me an > > indication that the transfer was never planned. This is however a > > dangerous assumption I have to admit, and in the general case - this > > transfer can occur. > > > > Moreover, from what I read in the SRM of both i.MX8MM and LS1028A - > > there is no lock that is imposed on TZ_OWN bit by setting the LDID (or > > LICID for LS family). > > I've noticed that too, but then assumed that because TZ_PRIM=1 implies > TZ_OWN=1 and the lock bit will lock TZ_PRIM then TZ_OWN must also be 1. > But that's not the case for LS SoCs. Correct, if PRIM_TZ is set and locked - then JR cannot be migrated to NS world until next POR. This is an indirect lock implication I suppose. > > > Would it be possible for you to tell which section of SRM provides a > > description of the JR transfer you mentioned above? > > I don't have access to the IMX8M SEC right now. If memory serves correctly, I just > saw that on an overview. But I just had a look at the LS1028ASECRM, and there is > "SEC's Job Ring interface can be independently assigned (and re-assigned) to > different users." (ch 12.2). I've seen that in both SRMs, and the description is pretty much the same. What is not written in this section is the transitions between S <-> NS worlds, and this is the piece of information of the interest here... :( Perhaps, NXP can step up here to comment on this transitions mechanism. > > > As for probing of the JR node, then I believe it is rather the > > opposite: > > deciding whether the JR is available during probing provides an > > opportunity to bind the device later on when it would be released from > > S to NS world (provided that this would ever occur). However, keeping > > in mind that there is no HW mechanism to indicate that the JR appears > > in NS world after the boot and the user transfer should be done > > manually by some other SW entity - later bind can also be performed > > there. > > Sure, but it will also be the other way around, no? Like S world can "steal" the JR > from NS world. And thats what I'm worried about. This is actually the key point, and I neglected this a bit completely unintentionally. If the software entity running in S World would like to reclaim the JR from Kernel, then it can do so at any given point of time. This for sure should be carefully crafted according to "Ring user (re-)assignment procedure" described in SRM, but what this would mean in practice for the Kernel is: any crypto operation running inside that JR would either complete or be abrupted. Once S World entity would reclaim the JR, the NS Word software entity should unbind the JR and stop using it while submitting operations for CAAM Algos. There is a conceptual problem here with this scenario, namely: S World should notify the NS World that a particular resource (JR in our case) is reserved and should not be used at all. AFAIK this mechanism is not present, and until it is not there - there would be no chance to realize that the JR is gone. Please note, that this patch (and consecutive V2 series) are not addressing above problem and was never intended to. The scenario you're talking about is a part of a bigger task, which is separate from what this patch covers. Just to make it clear: this patch (and consecutive V2 series) tried to address the functionality to dynamically identify which JR is not available for NS World at the Kernel boot and mark them accordingly. This allows that different derivatives that have CAAM HW IP to have any JR reserved, and would not require no changes in DTB to have a node disabled. There are several key components running in S World before Kernel (BootROM, SPL, ATF, OP-TEE) and they all can have JR reserved. If any of those software instances reserve the JR - then currently it should disable it in the DTB as well. This patch allows them not to do so, and moving the identification logic into the Kernel to dynamically figure out which resources are there to use. > > > The only difference to the current proposed solution would be to > > examine the CAAM control register instead of the flag from JR while > > probing, and this is what I'm currently testing on my end. > > > >> > >> So maybe u-boot (or TF-A) should mark that node as disabled after > >> all. > > > > If the U-Boot implementation would come up with similar dynamic > > recognition - then it would not be necessary to disable the node there > > as well. > > > > This would also ensure that if in later derivatives or ATF code > > updates another JR would be reserved as well - there would be no need > > to change and align DTB to it, as it would be dynamically recognized. > > To be clear, I don't talk about dynamic behavior here. Just try to determine > where the JR should be disabled/removed from the DT. And I'm assuming a static > partition of the JRs between S and NS world. As I've written above, I believe it would be hard to rely on static partitioning between S and NS Worlds, as we have several S World agents in the game before Kernel starts. They either should have a clean contract to establish this partitioning, or Kernel should be able to see which of those JRs are not available. This patch addresses the later since we do not have any rules regarding the partitioning contract. > > To recap, NXP suggested to disabled it in the SoC dtsi in u-boot. This depends on > whether the BootROM actually assignes it to S worlds and there is no way for u- > boot to regain access (assuming that u-boot or u-boot SPL will be started in EL3). > If it is not possible to reassign it to NS world, then the JR should be disabled in > linux and u-boot DTs. If there is a chance to regain control and that there might > be no TF-A at all, then statically disable the JR in u-boot is wrong. Instead it should > be determined at runtime (again just static partitioning, no dynamic > reassignment). Just to add: this proposal was done for i.MX8M Mini SoC only, which does not cover all other derivatives implementing CAAM. I assume that if we go with DTB approach - all other derivatives should be revised and reserve nodes appropriate. > > I had a fixup at runtime of the DT (both the active DT in u-boot as well as the DT > passed from u-boot to linux) in mind. Check the TZ_OWN bit and remove/disable > the JR. > > There is also an ongoing discussion where and how the DT will be passed to u- > boot and linux. So I might be the case that TF-A will allocate one JR to itself and > just pass u-boot the DT where that JR is disabled or removed. Which might also fit > the "fixup" in u-boot. Yes, but in this case - all derivatives should have this done, right? I'm not sure how this can be enforced, and also not sure how to keep this up in the future... > > >> If the BootROM is actually already assigning this to secure world > >> (and setting the lock bit LDID). Then it can also be removed from the > >> linux dtsi, because there is no way it can be assigned to linux > >> anyways. > > > > As I've indicated above: the LDID bit is not set on this JR. > > Ok, then u-boot should be able to reset the JR to its defaults if its started in EL3 > (and there is no TF-A at all), right? It can, if the CAAM driver finally lands in U-Boot and this functionality is implemented in that driver. So far, both of those is not covered... What I've just seen in V5 patch series for CAAM support in U-Boot [1], there is a dynamic reservation provisioned in SPL for any arbitrary JR number. Therefore, I believe this patch makes total sense to isolate Kernel and verify which JR is available at boot. > > >> >> >> > diff --git a/drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c > >> >> >> > b/drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c index > >> >> >> > 7f2b1101f567..a260981e0843 100644 > >> >> >> > --- a/drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c > >> >> >> > +++ b/drivers/crypto/caam/jr.c > >> >> >> > @@ -511,10 +511,27 @@ static int caam_jr_probe(struct > >> >> >> > platform_device > >> >> >> > *pdev) > >> >> >> > struct device_node *nprop; > >> >> >> > struct caam_job_ring __iomem *ctrl; > >> >> >> > struct caam_drv_private_jr *jrpriv; > >> >> >> > + struct caam_drv_private *caamctrlpriv; > >> >> >> > static int total_jobrs; > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ugh. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes, I've seen that. At first, I even wanted to replace it with > >> >> > the > >> >> > ctrlpriv->total_jobrs, > >> >> > but decided not to do it in order to keep this patch focused. > >> >> > >> >> Having the total_jobrs (and using it for anything else than > >> >> messages) static will create an unnecessary dependency on the > >> >> correct probe order. > >> > > >> > Yes, I've stumbled upon this logical problem myself as well. > >> > > >> > I'd decided that this should go, and would replace it with the > >> > option to use IRBAR_JRx as the indexing, since it has the address > >> > aligned and can be used as a bit index. > >> > - For LS1028A it would look like: IRBAR_JR[ring_id] >> 16 > >> > - For i.MX8M series it would be: IRBAR_JR[ring_id] >> 12 > >> > > >> > As those offsets are defined in the HW, they can be reliably used > >> > as indexing parameter to interrogate the CAAM if the JR is reserved > >> > for TZ or not. > >> > > >> > In addition, in order not to access the caam_ctrl register set from > >> > caam_jr driver, I'd still prefer to use a bitmask and compare the > >> > bits set against that new indexing. This would allow the driver to > >> > get rid of that static total_jobrs part at all. > >> > > >> > I would appreciate the community opinion on the approach above > >> > whether it is plausible and does not violate any kernel rules. > >> > >> Will try to follow you here later. > > > > I'm now working on a patchset that would supersede this one, and would > > include the dynamic indexing based on the JR address instead of that > > static variable used. This would also allow to re-order JR nodes > > inside the DTS and do not rely on the order of appearance. > > > >> > >> .. > >> > >> >> >> in general, does these marcros match with your reference manual? > >> >> >> Which one do you have? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm working on the imx8m mini, which has a v4.0 of CAAM, and > >> >> > this bit is defined in JR[0:2]DID_MS registers. > >> >> > > >> >> > The map looks like following: > >> >> > LDID[31], USE_OUT[30], PRIM_ICID[29:19], LAMTD[17], AMTD[16], > >> >> > TZ_OWN[15], SDID_MS[14:5], PRIM_TZ[4], PRIM_DID[3:0] > >> >> > > >> >> > Perhaps, there is a deviation here between what is instantiated > >> >> > in LS vs i.MX series. > >> >> > > >> >> > At this point, I would also be interested to hear back from NXP > >> >> > on this. > >> >> > >> >> Probably, but that would also mean we'd have to distiguish between > >> >> these too. > >> >> You're checking PRIM_TZ which is SDID on the LS1028A (which is an > >> >> arbitrary number if I understand it correctly). So the check above > >> >> might actually trigger although it shouldn't. > >> > > >> > It's maybe the opposite though: on the LS1028A if the TZ is set, > >> > then NS would read SDID as all 0's. This presents the problem that > >> > PRIM_TZ bit defined for i.MX8M series would read as 0 on LS series > >> > and fail the reservation check. > >> > >> I don't think you have to take the PRIM_TZ bit into account. > >> PRIM_TZ=1 implies OWN_TZ=1. (I'm not sure what PRIM_TZ=0 and > OWN_TZ=1 > >> is good for though). But as mentioned above, I'm not convinced that > >> deciding at probe time is the solution here. > > > > From what I read, PRIM_TZ bit is mixed into the SDID and also "locks" > > JR > > register interface to S world. Setting PRIM_TZ=0 and TZ_OWN=1 has > > primarily an influence of SDID construction, this is outlined in > > JRsDID_MS register description. > > > >> > >> > At this point I'd really like someone from NXP to comment on it, > >> > specifically: is it enough > >> > to just check the TZ bit for all families to recognize that JR is > >> > reserved for usage in Secure world only? > >> > >> yep. > > > > I've compared both i.MX8M and LS family SRMs, and looks like the > > OWN_TZ bit is the only unification point here that can be verified. > > > > I 'm currently testing the implementation where only that bit is > > checked and so far I have good results. I would post a V2 as a series > > and supersede this patch, where only that check would be included. > > > >> > >> >> > >> >> That said, whats PRIM_TZ? When is it set? > >> > > >> > It is set together with TZ_OWN early at the boot and is used for > >> > several purposes, namely: > >> > to derive SDID_MS (it is done dynamically), and also to indicate > >> > that the access to that JR registers (config, interrupt, buffers, > >> > etc.) are only possible from Secure World. > >> > >> Thanks, I also read the SRM for this bit, right now. > >> > >> -michael > > -- > -michael Link: [1]: http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20211115070014.17586-2-gaurav.jain@xxxxxxx/ -- andrey
