On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, Brijesh Singh wrote: > > On 10/13/21 7:34 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, Brijesh Singh wrote: > >> On 10/12/21 11:46 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote: > >>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, Brijesh Singh wrote: > >>>> When SEV-SNP is enabled, the guest private pages are added in the RMP > >>>> table; while adding the pages, the rmp_make_private() unmaps the pages > >>>> from the direct map. If KSM attempts to access those unmapped pages then > >>>> it will trigger #PF (page-not-present). > >>>> > >>>> Encrypted guest pages cannot be shared between the process, so an > >>>> userspace should not mark the region mergeable but to be safe, mark the > >>>> process vma unmerable before adding the pages in the RMP table. > >>> To be safe from what? Does the !PRESENT #PF crash the kernel? > >> Yes, kernel crashes when KSM attempts to access to an unmaped pfn. > > Is this problem unique to nuking the direct map (patch 05), > > Yes. This problem didn't exist in previous series because we were not > nuking the page from direct map and KSM was able to read the memory just > fine. Now with the page removed from the direct map causes #PF > (not-present). Hrm, so regardless of what manipulations are done to the direct map, any errant write to guest private memory via the direct map would be fatal to the kernel. That's both mildly terrifying and oddly encouraging, as it means silent guest data corruption is no longer a thing, at least for private memory. One concrete takeaway for me is that "silently" nuking the direct map on RMP assignment is not an option. Nuking the direct map if the kernel has a way to determine that the backing store is for guest private memory is perfectly ok, but pulling the rug out so to speak is setting us up for maintenance hell. > > or would it also be a problem (in the form of an RMP violation) if the > > direct map were demoted to 4k pages? > > > > No, this problem does happen due to the demotion. In previous series, we > were demoting the pages to 4k and everyone was happy (including ksm). In > the case of ksm, the page will *never* be merged because ciphertext for > two private pages will never be the same. Removing the pages from direct > map certainly brings additional complexity in the KVM and other places > in the kernel. From architecture point of view, there is actually no > need to mark the page *not present* in the direct map. I believe in TDX > that is must but for the SEV-SNP its not required at all. Nuking the direct map is not strictly required for TDX either, as reads do not compromise the integrity of the memory, i.e. don't poison memory and lead to #MC. Like SNP, writes via the direct map would be fatal. The issue with TDX that is not shared by SNP is that writes through _user_ mappings can be fatal the system. With SNP, those generate RMP violations, but because they are "just" page faults, the normal uaccess machinery happily eats them and SIGBUSes the VMM. > A hypervisor can read the guest private pages just fine, only the write will > cause an RMP fault. Well, for some definitions of "read". I'm kinda joking, kinda serious. KSM may "work" when it reads garbage, but the same is likely not true for other kernel code that wanders into guest private memory. Ideally, the kernel would provide a mechanism to _prevent_ any such reads/writes, and violations would be treated as kernel bugs. Given that SEV has been successfully deployed, the probability of lurking bugs is quite low, but I still dislike the idea of latent bugs going unnoticed or manifesting in weird ways.
