On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 19:05, Milan Broz <gmazyland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 17/06/2019 16:39, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > >> > >> In other words, if you add some additional limit, we are breaking backward compatibility. > >> (Despite the configuration is "wrong" from the security point of view.) > >> > > > > Yes, but breaking backward compatibility only happens if you break > > something that is actually being *used*. So sure, > > xts(aes)-essiv:sha256 makes no sense but people use it anyway. But is > > that also true for, say, gcm(aes)-essiv:sha256 ? > > These should not be used. The only way when ESSIV can combine with AEAD mode > is when you combine length-preserving mode with additional integrity tag, for example > > # cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --integrity hmac-sha256 /dev/sdb > > it will produce this dm-crypt cipher spec: > capi:authenc(hmac(sha256),cbc(aes))-essiv:sha256 > > the authenc(hmac(sha256),cbc(aes)) is direct crypto API cipher composition, the essiv:sha256 > IV is processed inside dm-crypt as IV. > > So if authenc() composition is problem, then yes, I am afraid these can be used in reality. > > But for things like gcm(aes)-essiv:sha256 (IOW real AEAD mode with ESSIV) - these are > not supported by cryptsetup (we support only random IV in this case), so these should > not be used anywhere. > OK, understood. Unfortunately, that means that the essiv template should be dynamically instantiated as either a aead or a skcipher depending on the context, but perhaps this is not a big deal in reality, I will check. One final question before I can proceed with my v2: in crypt_ctr_blkdev_cipher(), do you think we could change the code to look at the cipher string rather than the name of the actual cipher? In practice, I don't think they can be different, but in order to be able to instantiate 'essiv(authenc(hmac(sha256),cbc(aes)),sha256,aes)', the cipher part needs to be parsed before the TFM(s) are instantiated.