On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:27:27PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > Hello Eric, > > On 9/10/19 1:40 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > [...] > > >>> I have just spotted this conversation and I expect if you are going > >>> to use this example it is probably good to document what is going > >>> on so that people can follow along. > >> > >> (Sounds reasonable.) > >> > >>>>> chdir(rootfs) > >>>>> pivot_root(".", ".") > >>> > >>> At this point the mount stack should be: > >>> old_root > >>> new_root > >>> rootfs > >> > >> In this context, what is 'rootfs'? The initramfs? At least, when I > >> examine /proc/PID/mountinfo. When I look at the / mount point in > >> /proc/PID/mountinfo, I see just > >> > >> old_root > >> new_root > >> > >> But nothing below 'new_root'. So, I'm a little puzzled. > > > > I think that is because Al changed /proc/mounts to not display mounts > > that are outside of your current root. But yes there is typically > > the initramfs of file system type rootfs on their. Even when it isn't > > used you have one. Just to keep everything simple I presume. > > > > I haven't double checked lately to be certain it is there but I expect > > it is. > > > >> By the way, why is 'old_root' stacked above 'new_root', do you know? I > >> mean, in this scenario it turns out to be useful, but it's kind of the > >> opposite from what I would have expected. (And if this was a > >> deliverate design decision in pivot_root(), it was never made > >> explicit.) > > > > Oh. It is absolutely explicit and part of the design and it has nothing > > to do with this case. > > > > The pivot_root system calls takes two parameters: new_root and put_old. > > > > In this case the old root is put on put_old (which is the new_root). > > And new_root is made the current root. > > > > The pivot_root code looks everything up before it moves anything. With > > the result it is totally immaterrial which order the moves actually > > happen in the code. Further it is pretty much necessary to look > > everything up before things are moved because the definition of paths > > change. > > > > So it would actually be difficult to have pivot_root(.,.) to do anything > > except what it does today. > > > > > >>> With "." and "/" pointing to new_root. > >>> > >>>>> umount2(".", MNT_DETACH) > >>> > >>> At this point resolving "." starts with new_root and follows up the > >>> mount stack to old-root. > >> > >> Okay. > >> > >>> Ordinarily if you unmount "/" as is happening above you then need to > >>> call chroot and possibly chdir to ensure neither "/" nor "." point to > >>> somewhere other than the unmounted root filesystem. In this specific > >>> case because "/" and "." resolve to new_root under the filesystem that is > >>> being unmounted that all is well. > >> > >> s/that/then/ ? > > Thanks for the further clarifications. > > All: I plan to add the following text to the manual page: > > new_root and put_old may be the same directory. In particular, > the following sequence allows a pivot-root operation without need‐ > ing to create and remove a temporary directory: > > chdir(new_root); > pivot_root(".", "."); > umount2(".", MNT_DETACH); Hm, should we mention that MS_PRIVATE or MS_SLAVE is usually needed before the umount2()? Especially for the container case... I think we discussed this briefly yesterday in person. > > This sequence succeeds because the pivot_root() call stacks the > old root mount point (old_root) on top of the new root mount point > at /. At that point, the calling process's root directory and > current working directory refer to the new root mount point > (new_root). During the subsequent umount() call, resolution of > "." starts with new_root and then moves up the list of mounts > stacked at /, with the result that old_root is unmounted. > > Look okay? > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > -- > Michael Kerrisk > Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ > Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/ > _______________________________________________ > Containers mailing list > Containers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/containers _______________________________________________ Containers mailing list Containers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/containers