On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 01:14:10PM -0500, Sasha Levin wrote: > On 03/07/2013 01:05 PM, ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > >> On 03/07/2013 12:46 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 12:36 -0500, Sasha Levin wrote: > >>> > >>>> Looks like the hlist change is probably the issue, though it specifically > >>>> uses: > >>>> > >>>> #define hlist_entry_safe(ptr, type, member) \ > >>>> (ptr) ? hlist_entry(ptr, type, member) : NULL > >>>> > >>>> I'm still looking at the code in question and it's assembly, but I can't > >>>> figure out what's going wrong. I was also trying to see what's so special > >>>> about this loop in find_pid_ns as opposed to the rest of the kernel code > >>>> that uses hlist_for_each_entry_rcu() but couldn't find out why. > >>>> > >>>> Is it somehow possible that if we rcu_dereference_raw() the same thing twice > >>>> inside the same rcu_read_lock() section we'll get different results? That's > >>>> really the only reason for this crash that comes to mind at the moment, very > >>>> unlikely - but that's all I have right now. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yep > >>> > >>> #define hlist_entry_safe(ptr, type, member) \ > >>> (ptr) ? hlist_entry(ptr, type, member) : NULL > >>> > >>> Is not safe, as ptr can be evaluated twice, and thats not good at all... > >> > >> ptr is being evaluated twice, but in this case this is an > >> rcu_dereference_raw() value within the same rcu_read_lock() section. > >> > >> Is it still problematic? > > > > Definitely. > > > > Head in this instance the expression: &pid_hash[pid_hashfn(nr, ns)] > > > > And the crash clearly shows that when hilst_entry is being evaluated the > > HEAD is NULL. > > Okay, I'm even more confused now. > > The expression in question is: > > hlist_entry_safe(rcu_dereference_bh(hlist_first_rcu(head))) > > You're saying that "rcu_dereference_bh(hlist_first_rcu(head))" can change between > the two evaluations we do. That would mean that 'head' has changed in between, right? > > In that case, the list itself has changed - which means that RCU has changed the > list underneath us. > > hlist_first_rcu() doesn't have any side-effects, it doesn't modify the list whatsoever, > so the only thing that can change is 'head'. Why is it allowed to change if the list > is protected by RCU? RCU does not prevent the list from changing. Instead, it prevents anything that was in the list from being freed during a given RCU read-side critical section. Here is how it is supposed to happen: head---->A Task 1 picks up the pointer from head to A, and sees that it is non-NULL. Task 2 removes A from the list, so that the pointer from head is now NULL: head A | | V NULL Now task 1 refetches from head, and is fatally disappointed to get a NULL pointer. Now, had task 1 avoided the refetch, it would be still working with a pointer to A. Since A won't be freed until the end of an RCU grace period, all would have been well. Again, one way to handle this is as follows: #define hlist_entry_safe(ptr, type, member) \ ({ typeof(ptr) ____ptr = (ptr); \ ____ptr ? hlist_entry(____ptr, type, member) : NULL; \ }) This way, "ptr" is executed exactly once, and the check and the hlist_entry() are both using the same value. Thanx, Paul _______________________________________________ Containers mailing list Containers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/containers